Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

Then why do you favor socialist systems for health care?

If you as a German need a doctor or dentist in Sweden you have to pay out of
your own pocket.

... you visit the nearest hospital clinic ("Närakut", "Akutmottagning" or "Vårdcentral"), taking your passport and European Health Insurance (EHIC) with you or you will be charged the full cost of the treatment. With an EHIC, you will still have to pay part of the cost, which is not refundable. You will also have to pay the full cost of dental treatment up to a fixed limit, and most of the cost above this limit. Any reductions will be made before you get your bill

Britain should start talks to leave the European Union as soon as possible, European Council President Donald Tusk said on Thursday, adding weight to calls for Prime Minister Theresa May to start the formal divorce procedure.

In London, Tusk met May for their first head-to-head meeting since Britain voted to leave the bloc in a referendum on June 23 which led to the resignation of her predecessor David Cameron. Tusk and May are keen to discuss what steps might be taken over the next few months, officials said.

May has said Britain will not trigger Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty to start the exit procedure this year to give her government time to come up with a negotiating stance for the complicated talks that will shape the country's future standing.

"Our goal (is) to establish closest possible EU-UK relations. Ball in UK court to start negotiations. In everybody's best interest to start ASAP (as soon as possible)," Tusk said on Twitter.

As head of the European Council, which groups heads of EU states and governments, Tusk leads the body that defines the bloc's political direction and priorities.
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On Wednesday, May's spokeswoman said the meeting with Tusk would not only cover Britain's exit, or "Brexit", but would also discuss issues on the agenda for the October meeting of EU leaders, suggesting that Britain still plans to play a role.

May has said she will not show her hand before starting the Brexit talks, giving few details of what her government wants when it leaves the EU.

She says reducing immigration into Britain is crucial after millions of Britons expressed their frustration in the vote over what they say is the stress on schools, hospitals and housing from high numbers of people settling in the country.

But May, a former interior minister who was in charge of the ruling Conservative Party's immigration policy, also says she wants the best trade deal for Britain, refusing to say whether the country will remain in the EU's lucrative single market.

The European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, is facing a legal challenge from British expatriates who claim his ban on EU officials negotiating with the UK over Brexit is illegal.

The organisation Fair Deal for Expats is planning to launch its action at the EU’s General Court in Luxembourg in an attempt to bolster Britain’s bargaining position in preliminary political discussions over withdrawal.

Several days after the 23 June referendum result, Juncker announced that he was making a “presidential order” that there should be no negotiations with the UK until Article 50 – formally signalling Britain’s intention to withdraw – has been triggered.

By forcing the UK to wait until it has pressed the button on Article 50, many believe Juncker has restricted its room for diplomatic manoeuvre.
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The European Union has dismissed the challenge, saying that the decision not to negotiate until Article 50 has been triggered is an agreement between the other 27 remaining EU states.

Fair Deal for Expats is also intervening in the forthcoming judicial review in London, due to take place in October, which is seeking to give parliament – as opposed to the prime minister – sole authority to trigger Article 50.
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Patrick Green QC and Henry Warwick, barristers working on the claim, will argue that there is no such thing as a “presidential order” and that either it has no legal force to stop commission staff entering into talks or else it is an abuse of Juncker’s powers.
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The EU commission has claimed, according to Fair Deal for Expats, that the Juncker statement has been mistranslated. Juncker’s use of the phrase “presidential order” has also been described as a loose figure of speech.

A statement issued by the European commission said: “President Juncker, the rresident of the European council Donald Tusk, the European parliament president Martin Schulz, and a series of national leaders have all made clear that the legal ground for exiting the EU is Article 50 of the Treaty and that negotiations begin after that is triggered. President Juncker has instructed commissioners and EC officials also to follow that principle.” Juncker’s comments were only intended to bind commission officials not other EU member states.

Foofie wrote:

And, if Britain did not leave the EU, it might just be a matter of time before they weren't Brits. Britain survived WWII, WWI to melt into continental self-indulgence? Too sad, if that happened.

So the UK's 43-year membership of the EU (plus at least two more after triggering article 50) is just the limit before losing the British status?

Foofie wrote:

Britain survived WWII, WWI to melt into continental self-indulgence? Too sad, if that happened.

What an amazing piece of nonsense.

The culture would eventually, in my opinion, be watered down, as young people take jobs on the continent and return with a different mindset, what I don't know;

Foofie wrote:

The culture would eventually, in my opinion, be watered down, as young people take jobs on the continent and return with a different mindset, what I don't know;

And why, do you think, such would start now and not 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago? And what about the hundred thousands of more senior UK-citizens living and working in continental Europe?

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