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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 01:13 pm
@izzythepush,
Overthrowing governments in Philippines, Iran, Chile, Iraq. It's easier to point your finger at other countries than your own
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Dec, 2021 07:56 am
Brexit minister Frost said today, London would extend a grace period for introducing post-Brexit checks on goods moving from Ireland to Britain beyond Jan. 1 to allow space for negotiations with the European Union.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Dec, 2021 10:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
UK delays Brexit checks on goods entering from Ireland
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The Brexit minister, David Frost, signalled his acceptance that the negotiations with the EU would continue into the new year, issuing a statement saying the checks due to come into force on 1 January would be postponed as an act of “good faith”.

“The government believes that this pragmatic act of goodwill can help to maintain space for continued negotiations on the protocol,” Lord Frost said. “It also ensures that traders in both Ireland and Northern Ireland are not faced with further uncertainty while the protocol arrangements themselves are still under discussion.”

Frost spoke to his European commissioner counterpart, Maroš Šefčovič, on Wednesday and will speak again on Friday, with high expectation that the talks will be put on ice over the Christmas break.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 15 Dec, 2021 11:41 am
@coluber2001,
It is, I'm no fan of the British Empire either.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 15 Dec, 2021 11:44 am
@izzythepush,
Having said that on the radio a while back there were a load of BAME kids from London talking about the British Empire and they came to the conclusion it was a good thing because it meant they were living in Britain.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2021 09:13 am
Food and drink exports to Europe fall by a quarter after Brexit
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New figures have shown that UK food and drink exports to the EU plunged by almost a quarter in the nine months after Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal took effect, compared to pre-pandemic levels, with a loss of £2.4bn in sales.

Exports to big European markets were hit hard, with sales to Spain down by more than half (50.6 per cent) on 2019 levels, Germany by 44.5 per cent and Italy by 43.3 per cent, according to the Food and Drink Federation. Sales to the industry’s largest overseas market, the Republic of Ireland, were down by more than a quarter.

And industry leaders warned that the downturn could be “here to stay”, in a blow not only to Mr Johnson’s “global Britain” aspirations but also his plans to “level up” disadvantaged parts of the country.

The FDF said that the slump in sales could be blamed both on new barriers to trade created by Brexit and Mr Johnson’s Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) with Brussels and on the global Covid-19 pandemic.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2021 04:41 am
The British are continuing the process of breaking away from the EU.
Now the empire signed a trade agreement with its former penal colony Australia.

Australia accounts for only around 1.7% of UK exports and 0.7% of imports and tariffs on most UK-Australia trade are already low - thus it will produce an increase of between 0.01% and 0.02% of gross domestic product (GDP).
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2021 05:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Huge by-election defeat in North Shropshire. This seat has been in Tory hands for the last 200 years. It voted for Brexit and the new MP is from the most pro European party in Westminster.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2021 08:22 am
The UK has abandoned its attempt to strip EU judges of the power to oversee the Northern Ireland Protocol, in another Brexit climbdown.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2021 08:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
There are whispers among Tory backbenchers of a leadership challenge in the Summer.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Dec, 2021 06:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Lord Dodds says UK ‘falling into line’ with EU and retreating from commitment to trigger article 16.

Furious response from DUP over Northern Ireland protocol
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The government’s retreat from its hardline position in negotiations with the EU over Brexit arrangements in Northern Ireland has elicited a furious response from the most senior unionist in the House of Lords.

Lord Dodds, the former deputy leader of the Democratic Unionist party, has issued a veiled threat of “action” unless it restores the option of pulling the plug on the Northern Ireland protocol by using the article 16 process.

“Every day that passes with the protocol in place is another day which sees Northern Ireland and Great Britain move further apart. This is unsustainable.

“If the UK government can’t or won’t act, then unionism will and soon,” he said in a statement.

He was responding to reports that the UK has dropped its demands for removal of the role of the European Court of Justice from the Northern Ireland protocol.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 18 Dec, 2021 06:46 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Johnson is on notice after an omnishambles month although he's still blaming the media for reporting on his corruption and incompetence.

He can't afford another cockup right now.
lmur
 
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Reply Sat 18 Dec, 2021 02:17 pm
@izzythepush,
Not a cock-up as such but I'm reading that his Brexit minister, David Frost, has resigned from Cabinet. Also hearing there are riots in the west end of London tonight although they are probably related to the earlier anti lockdown protest.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Dec, 2021 02:30 pm
@lmur,
The Daily Mail" reported that Frost tendered his resignation a week ago - but was persuaded to stay until January.
If it's true that he resigned now (I don't doubt it), there are still a couple of days to find a new negotiator (Johnson seems good to find successors in office).
The UK's government is in quite a chaos.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Dec, 2021 06:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Lord Frost’s resignation an opportunity to ‘press reset button’ with EU, says Tory MP
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Brexit minister David Frost has resigned from Boris Johnson’s cabinet in protest at “the direction of travel,” triggering a fresh crisis inside Downing Street after an already turbulent week for the prime minister.

Lord Frost – one of the most popular members of the cabinet among the Conservative faithful – handed in his resignation a week ago and had been persuaded to stay in his post until January but last night said he would step down “with immediate effect.”

His resignation represents a major political blow for the prime minister who is already facing a series of crises over “gatherings” in No 10 during Covid restrictions, growing discontent on the Tory backbenches over his leadership and this week’s historic loss in the North Shropshire by-election.

Meanwhile, Senior Tory MP Tobias Ellwood has said the departure of Lord Frost could bring an opportunity to “press the reset button with the EU”.

Former minister Mr Ellwood said: “We’re still not out of the woods with the Northern Ireland Protocol and we have some rather larger decisions and challenges, which actually unite both the EU, Europe and Britain.”

He said: “As much as I think this is going to be seen as a hit for the Government, he was a critical character that’s been with Boris Johnson from the very start when it comes to Brexit, this is a chance for us to actually to sort of move forward on our relationship with the EU.”
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Dec, 2021 07:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Departure of Frost as Brexit minister sets off alarm bells in Brussels

Concern grows within Europe that his replacement will undermine recent truce in negotiations

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There is concern that Johnson, under huge pressure from the right of his Conservative party over Covid restrictions, will feel the need to replace Lord Frost with someone who will want to unravel the new approach.

On Sunday, reports suggested that figures such as Iain Duncan Smith, the former work and pensions secretary, or even David Davis, who resigned as Theresa May’s Brexit secretary in 2018, could be in the running. Both men have called for the ditching of the Northern Ireland protocol in the past.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 19 Dec, 2021 12:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Liz Truss has got the EU negotiator role. She's hardly dynamic but she's better than David Davis or IDS. Those two are complete idiots, way too extreme.

The problem Johnson has is that there are various factions in ghe party, those who think Covid responses are too severe, those who want to ditch the NI protocol, the new MPs from Labour constituencies who want to stay as mps and the established mps who feel the new ones are taking too much focus.

These groups are often at odds with each other,but they agree on one thing, Johnson is doing a terrible job of being prime minister right now.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Dec, 2021 01:09 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Liz Truss has got the EU negotiator role
This means taking over Frost’s key positions on all the post-Brexit committees, including as co-chair of the partnership council and the joint committee that oversees the implementation and enforcement of both the withdrawal agreement of 2020 and the trade and co-operation deal clinched last December.

She's the UK's foreign secretary as well.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 19 Dec, 2021 01:12 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
And she's still foreign secretary.

She is slightly more pragmatic than Frost but I wouldn't expect any substantive difference although Johnso is under pressure to deliver.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2021 06:46 am
Tory cheerleader Laura Kuennsberg will be stepping down as the BBC as political editor.

Good riddance you'd rubbish,although we're stuck with her until Easter.

Hopefully she'll be replaced with a journalist instead of another propagandist.
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