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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 2 Dec, 2021 02:41 pm
@izzythepush,
I think that a "reunited" Ireland is easier to achieve than three (Scotland, Wales, England) independent states on the island of Great Britain.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2021 11:39 am
Frost says ‘significant’ gaps remain with EU over N Ireland Protocol (No! That's not an old news headline!)
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Brexit minister Lord Frost has said “significant” gaps still remain following his latest talks with the European Commission on the impasse over the Northern Ireland Protocol.

Following a video conference call with commission vice president Maros Sefcovic, Lord Frost said they would speak again next week while their teams will have intensified talks in the coming days.

In a statement, he confirmed the UK remained ready to trigger Article 16 – suspending some of the arrangements in the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement – if a settlement cannot be found.

“I made clear that the UK still wanted to find a negotiated solution if that was possible and was ready to keep working constructively and intensively to that end,” he said.

“Nevertheless the gap between our positions is still significant and progress on many issues has been quite limited.

“Our position remains as before: that the threshold has been met to use Article 16 safeguards in order to protect the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement, if solutions cannot be found.”

The UK is pressing for an easing of checks on goods moving from mainland Great Britain to Northern Ireland under the protocol, arguing they are damaging business and straining community relations.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2021 05:34 pm
Pope Francis has compared the EU to a dictatorship in its attempt to impose ‘woke’ rules on language.

The pope, 84, said the bloc risked falling apart if it became a vehicle for “ideological colonisation” as he left Greece following a four-day trip.
Brussels last week withdrew a 32-page guide on inclusive language that advised staff to say “human-induced” instead of “man-made” and to avoid reference to Christmas during the holiday season.

Facing an outcry, Helena Dalli, the European Commissioner for Equality, said the guidebook “clearly needed more work”.

Trying to ban such Christian terms amounted to “a fad, watered-down secularism,” Francis said. “It is something that throughout history has not worked.”

“In history, many dictatorships have tried to do these things. I’m thinking of Napoleon, the Nazi dictatorship, the Communist one. The European Union...must be careful not to take the path of ideological colonisation. This could end up dividing countries and causing the EU to fail.”

Frohe Weihnachten.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 11:38 pm
Brexit delays to cross-Channel trade still worsening as 79% of firms report hold-ups
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‘What the government once called teething problems have now become a chronic condition’
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2021 06:10 pm
US overtakes Europe after Brexit liberates City of London
Financial sector moves focus away from EU while Americans eye British bargains.

British financial services exports to the US outstripped those to the European Union in 2021 for the first time since the Brexit vote as the City shifts its focus away from the Continent.

Auf Wiedersehen Mutti... said nobody!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2021 12:25 am
Plans for foreign citizens to need pre-clearance to enter Northern Ireland denounced as ‘hardening of border.


UK proposes US-style waivers for EU citizens crossing Irish border
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EU citizens and other non-Irish or non-British nationals who cross the border from the republic of Ireland into Northern Ireland will have to get pre-clearance under new rules being proposed by the UK government.

They will require a US-style waiver known as an Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA) to cross the border as part of the new post-Brexit immigration nationality and borders bill.

The scheme is expected to come into force in 2025 but has already been denounced as “unworkable” on the Irish border, where thousands of people commute in both directions for schools, work and shopping.

Stephen Farry, an Alliance party MP, said it would create “new bureaucracy” and “legal uncertainty” for ordinary people going about their daily business, while the campaigner Emma DeSouza said the move was “absolutely wild” and would represent a “hardening of the border”.

The immigration minister Kevin Foster told the House of Commons Northern Ireland affairs committee that the ETA would be a simple authorisation, obtained online, and would, like the US Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) last multiple years.

Asked if the UK would be checking paperwork at the border, he said: “Absolutely not”.

“We don’t operate routine immigration controls through the common travel area,” he said referring to unique rules and laws that allow British and Irish nationals to live, work, study or retire in each other’s country without immigration controls.

“We anticipate this will be a fairly simple process. When the US ESTA originally launched you could fill it in at the airport and fly an hour or two later.

“I don’t want to perhaps get that type of guarantee yet, but we’re certainly looking at how we can make a simplified process as quick and simple,” Foster added.

The issue of post-Brexit borders creates particular problems in Ireland where EU nationals still enjoy freedom of movement rights, which means they do not need visas to live or work south of the border.

The 5.2 million EU citizens and their families who have been granted pre-settled or settled status in the UK who holiday on the island of Ireland will not be impacted.

Foster said any non-Irish or non-British national who did not have the right to be in the UK visa-free would “probably get used to the idea that they need to apply for something in terms of [travel into] the UK”.

He said he was very “conscious” of the special circumstances that applied around the Irish border and that “enforcement of it will be proportionate”.

This is not the first time the issue of Northern Ireland being used as a “back door” to immigration to the UK has arisen.

Before Brexit, police on both sides of the border coordinated control of non-EU immigration abuse of the common travel area through a joint scheme known as Operation Gull.

Data is not published but records shared with an Irish politician showed that in 2017, almost 800 individuals trying to get into Britain via Northern Ireland were stopped in one year.

Post-Brexit, EU nationals living in Ireland entering the UK via Northern Ireland would not be required to show passports as there was no airline liability on these internal routes, said Foster.

This would not, however, mean they could circumvent post-Brexit rules on work or residency rights as the Home Office’s “compliant environment” would “kick in”, he said, which requires employers and landlords to check their rights.


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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2021 03:05 pm
"Data is not published but records shared with an Irish politician showed that in 2017, almost 800 individuals trying to get into Britain via Northern Ireland were stopped in one year."

Any idea what their nationalities were?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2021 11:29 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:
Any idea what their nationalities were?
No.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2021 11:31 pm
Deadline in UK-France fishing row passes without agreement

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An EU deadline for the UK to grant licences to dozens of French boats in a post-Brexit fishing row has passed without an agreement being announced.

There had been suggestions on Friday that negotiations over fishing licences for small French boats in British waters could lead to a breakthrough but sources said there was no announcement expected from the UK government as the midnight deadline came and went.

France had threatened to push the European Union for legal action and trade restrictions against the UK if there was not a “sign of goodwill” in the fishing row in time for a Friday deadline set by Brussels.

The European Commission had said it expected the dispute to be resolved by midnight.
Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 11 Dec, 2021 06:52 am
Australia ditches entire fleet of EU-made Taipan helicopters after history of embarrassing flaws.

The bloc's defence ambitions suffer another blow less than three months after Australia canceled a deal to buy French submarines.

Australia's military said Friday it plans to ditch its fleet of European-designed Taipan helicopters and instead buy US Black Hawks and Seahawks because the American machines are more reliable.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 11 Dec, 2021 07:14 am
@Tryagain,
According to Andrew McLaughlin, writing for the Australian Defence Business Review (ADBR), “Many of the availability issues are reportedly attributable to European certification standards being different from those of the US from which the ADF sources most of its equipment, as well as difficulties in maintaining configuration management through the more than 40 different sub-variants of the baseline NH 90 helicopter which is built on six final assembly lines and is in service in Europe and the Middle East.” (Source

Just reminding that the "NHIndustries NH90" (the official NATO name) has suffered several teething issues since its introduction into service in 2007, which have delayed active deployment of the type by some operators.

It's a NATO not an EU project. (The United Kingdom left the developing team in 1987.)

In the German forces, the NH90 works … kind of.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 11 Dec, 2021 08:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
UK and Jersey issue more fishing licences in post-Brexit row with France
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The UK and Jersey governments have issued further licences to French fishing boats to trawl British waters in an apparent attempt to ease cross-Channel tensions.

The Brussels-imposed deadline of midnight on Friday into Saturday for solving a post-Brexit fishing row passed without an agreement being announced.

However, the UK Government has since confirmed that talks on Friday evening between Environment Secretary George Eustice and Virginijus Sinkevicius from the European Commission following “several weeks of intensive technical discussions on licensing”, resulted in more small boat licences being granted.

In a statement, a spokeswoman said 18 more licences had been granted to replacement vessels that had been able to present “new evidence” of having previously fished British grounds, with seven more boats under consideration.

Jersey has granted permanent licences to an additional five vessels, she said.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 11 Dec, 2021 01:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
A breakthrough has been reached in the dispute between France and Great Britain over fishing rights in the English Channel. This was announced by the EU Commission. Shortly after the expiry of a deadline, the British government had issued 18 additional licences to EU vessels for fishing in British waters and 5 off the Channel Island of Jersey, according to the European Commission. France said in a statement that it had taken note of the granting of additional licences. In the meantime, 93 per cent of the required authorisations had been granted.

The EU Commission's goal was to conclude the licensing procedure by midnight on 10 December. A formal agreement on the expiry of this deadline was not announced. The EU Commission, meanwhile, spoke on Saturday of an important step in a long process to implement the Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) concluded between Brussels and the Kingdom following its withdrawal from the EU. By Saturday, a total of 83 additional fishing licences had been added in the intensified talks. France and the EU Commission now want to work together on the missing licences. Paris announced that it would examine all legal means to obtain the outstanding permits.

(Sources: Spiegel, reuters, France 24, The Guardian)


Additionally, Jersey reaches 'resolution' with EU on fishing rights.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2021 10:25 am
@Walter Hinteler,
After the UK and the Channel Islands governments agree to more licences, France drops threat of trade war over post-Brexit fishing rights
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France has quietly dropped its threat of a trade war over post-Brexit access to fishing waters after the UK and Channel Islands governments agreed to issue 83 more operating licences before an EU deadline.

The offer did not fully meet the demands of Emmanuel Macron’s government but Brussels and Paris signalled their satisfaction after a period of increasingly bellicose rhetoric.

It remains to be seen, however, whether French fishing communities will accept the decisions, with threats issued in recent days of a pre-Christmas blockade of UK goods entering Calais.

On Sunday, the EU commissioner for fishing, Virginijus Sinkevičius, thanked the UK for “respecting” the 10 December deadline by which Paris had demanded additional licences to small boats seeking to fish in the coastal waters of the UK and Jersey and Guernsey, British Crown dependencies.

He said: “I think it was a very important step achieved last night and I’m thankful to the UK that they respected a deadline that we set by 10 December

“The two weeks were very intensive, we’ve managed to bring over 80 additional licences now. The [European] Commission together with the French authorities, we will examine every single application to see if there is sufficient sufficient data provided to gain licences. The UK always stated that they keep the doors open. So if there is a case, of course, the commission together with the French authorities will examine those possibilities.”

Annick Girardin, the French ministers for the seas, said her government would seek to assist those fishers who had not been successful.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 09:49 am
Timothy Snyder: Can History Save Us from Ourselves?

"The main pattern of European history in the 20th century has nothing to do with, has very little to do with the nation-state, it has to do with the transition from Empire to integration and in that transition the nation-state is something that you talk about precisely because it's not real. The end of the first world war is the end of the major land Empires. The end of the second world war is the end of the Empire, in general. In the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the European empires fail. And as they fail you bracket the Empire away. You talk about the nation-state and imagine that's the nation state has joined Europe. Nothing like that has ever happened. There was never a moment when you were actually a nation-state. ... it never happened that you had a nation state that joined Europe. You had an Empire. You had an Empire that fell apart from increasingly bloody wars and then you got to join the integration of the European process as an economic, political and moral substitute for that Lost Empire."

"If you think the nation was always there and you chose Empire, you didn't choose Empire, you were Empire, if you think the nation was there making choices to join the European, then you think you can leave the European Union, but you can't because you don't exist without it. There is no historical evidence that any of your nation's are self-sufficient without some larger project because you never had that experience. This fantasy that the European Union is something that you can just exit, that is not based on tradition, it is not based on the past, it is pure invention therefore it is a walk into the abyss."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5eb_4pvaM&feature=youtu.be
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 11:05 am
@coluber2001,
America is an empire.

Al Jazeera has a regular slot called empire where it looks at the global impact of the USA.

Brexiteers are a delusional bunch, the leader of UKIP when interviewed on the radio was challenged to give one advantage that Brexit had given us she couldn't give one. All she could say is that it wasn't the Brexit she wanted.

In about ten years time or so we'll be clamouring to go back in, on less favourable terms, no rebate for starters.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 12:35 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
America is an empire.

Why? Because of Guam and Puerto Rico??
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 12:43 pm
@oralloy,
Well, you are not a monarchy - so qua definitionem, the USA isn't an empire.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 12:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Is there a rule that Empires must be monarchies?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2021 12:50 pm
@oralloy,
Military presence all over the globe. Bahrain, the Phillipines, Diego Garcia, military action including covert operations in other nations.

Ruling over Central and South Amerixa byproxy including numerous coups in Chile, Honduras, Salvador...

The USA fits the definition of empire, a 21st century definition.

It's not the same as the British Empire, but the British Empire wasn't the same as the Roman Empire and the Roman Empire wasn't like the Persian Empire.

 

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