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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 27 May, 2021 11:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Number of EU citizens refused entry to UK soars despite Covid crisis
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The number of EU citizens being prevented from entering the UK has soared over the past three months despite a massive reduction in travel because of Covid, according to Home Office figures.

A total of 3,294 EU citizens were prevented from entering the UK, even though post-Brexit rules mean they are allowed to visit the country without visas. That compares with 493 EU citizens in the first quarter of last year, when air traffic was 20 times higher.
[...]
Passenger traffic from the EU was down year-by-year by between 94% and 97% over the first three months of this year, according to the Civil Aviation Authority.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 28 May, 2021 09:28 am
@Tryagain,
Already in the late Middle Ages, Switzerland went its own way by disempowering the nobility and becoming a republic in which the people governed themselves.
Then the Battle of Marignano was formative: in 1515 the Old Confederation suffered a devastating defeat against the French in Lombardy. The lesson was to abandon any great power airs and henceforth to stay out of "foreign affairs". This led to strict neutrality. It was not until 2002 that the country joined the United Nations.

Thus, Switzerland was and still is unique: in the heart of the continent, closely connected with the cultural areas surrounding it [25% of the inhabitants of Switzerland are EU-citizens] - and yet standing on the fringes, always striving for separation.
Not least to protect its idiosyncratic political system, direct democracy.

However:
admittedly, the Swiss government has no plan on how to proceed. But that is not so bad, they say in Bern. The EU needs Switzerland, just as Switzerland needs the EU. Brussels will not react so maliciously. This was said on the day that the Swiss medical technology industry lost its barrier-free access to the European market. The various agreements with Switzerland will not be terminated, but they will expire.

The people, who according to the polls are in favour of the negotiated framework agreement, are not allowed to have a say in this fateful question (dozens of cantonal/national referendums have been organised . And neither does parliament. For almost three years, the Federal Council (the seven-member executive council that constitutes the federal government of the Swiss Confederation and serves as the collective head of state and government of Switzerland) had avoided a decision - and now only decided that it does not want to negotiate (with a 4:3 vote).
Tryagain
 
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Sat 29 May, 2021 01:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Thank you Walter for the historical context and they (the Swiss) still have a vast pile of plundered gold to keep the Woolf from the door.

“The Swiss were the principal bankers and financial brokers of the Nazis, handling vast sums of gold and hard currency… Neutrality collided with morality; too often being neutral provided a pretext for avoiding moral considerations.”

– Stuart Eizenstat, US attorney and diplomat who served as US Undersecretary of Commerce for International Trade.

Now if you could assist me with the location of the 'Amber Room' I would be most grateful. Vielen Dank.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 29 May, 2021 01:17 pm
@Tryagain,
According to the Bergier commission's report, there is no doubt that the Swiss National Bank knew about the German Reichsbank's gold procurement practice. The experts describe the justification arguments as not valid. The SNB's "good faith" is a construct introduced after the fact to justify the procurement of looted gold, the report says. Switzerland handled almost four-fifths of the German Reichsbank's gold sales.

I'm not sure how the Amber Room is related to Brexit, the UK or, well, Switzerland.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 2 Jun, 2021 05:14 am
If you go to a pub in the UK, you often end up in a JD Wetherspoon pub. The chain with hundreds of pubs is an important player in the pub scene that characterises the country. In future, however, fewer Britons are to serve there, but rather more workers from the EU again - and this despite the fact that company boss Tim Martin was one of the loudest advocates of his country leaving the community, serving the pints in his pubs on pro-Brexit beer lids. And banned beers, wine and other products from EU countries from the menu.


Arch-Brexiter Wetherspoons boss Tim Martin pushes for work visa for EU pint pullers
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Brexit-backing Wetherspoon pubs boss Tim Martin has added his name to the list of those wanting to relax work visa rules for EU migrants.

Martin, who toured the country’s Wetherspoons pubs espousing the benefits of a hard Brexit, says that the UK should make it easier for lower-skilled EU workers to relocate here.

He’s one of many pub and restaurant bosses who told the Telegraph that recruitment in the industry was so poor that many sites are having to close to lunchtime trade.

EU nationals living in the UK could apply for settled status at no cost, giving them the right to live and work here indefinitely, however the Covid-19 pandemic has also meant a relocation of thousands of citizens back to their home countries.

The bosses of City Pub Group and TGI Fridays told the Telegraph that an inability to fill roles had made reopening harder for pubs and restaurants.
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It’s not the first time the Wetherspoons boss has raised eyebrows. At the start of the Covid-19 pandemic Martin told 40,000 staff at his company’s 814 pubs in a video that they should feel free to take jobs at supermarkets such as Tesco while Wetherspoon pubs remain closed.

He said: “If you’re offered a job… if you think it’s a good idea, do it.”

Martin was also a lockdown sceptic, saying the move by the UK Government in March last year would “cripple the economy”, destroy the tax base and subsequently hurt the NHS.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 2 Jun, 2021 07:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Mr Martin later told the BBC the comment has been taken out of context.

He added that Wetherspoons was not struggling to recruit, and in some towns, such as Northallerton, jobs at its pubs were oversubscribed.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics in April suggest that more than one in 10 UK hospitality workers left the industry in the last year.

UK Hospitality has urged the government to encourage UK-based workers to join the sector.

It is also asking the government to renew its list of shortage occupations and consider a visa scheme for workers who would not qualify under the points-based system.

Over the past 12 months Wetherspoons, which has 871 pubs, has reduced the number of staff by about 6,000 to almost 38,000.
BBC
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 4 Jun, 2021 06:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The UK announced announced a trade deal with Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein, the three non-EU members of the European Economic Area.

However, this deal doesn't restore all the advantages they had had when the UK and those countries were together in the EEA.
Builder
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 08:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It's better than being part of a corrupted org, though.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 10:25 pm
@Builder,
What exactly is corrupted with the European Economic Area?
Builder
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 10:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/organized-crime-and-human-trafficking/corruption_en

An assumption that there's no corruption would be more ridiculous, Walter.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 11:17 pm
@Builder,
The European Economic Area (EEA) is an international agreement which enables the extension of the European Union's single market to member states of the European Free Trade Association.

It has nothing at all to do with "Migration and Home Affairs".

Builder
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 11:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
My assertion stands. It would certainly be puerile and pathetic, to assume there's no corruption in any organisation of longstanding in any nation.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 5 Jun, 2021 11:53 pm
@Builder,
Certainly a trade deal less than that before minimises the chances of corruption.

But it's with the same countries who are members of the EEA. (The EEA is no organisation.)
Builder
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 12:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
So, it's an international agreement, without any overlying organisational watchdog or committee?

A handshake agreement?

Even more open to corruption, then.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 12:51 am
@Builder,
If you ever wouldn't make up wild guesses but look for the details, you'd noticed that there are quite a few regulations between the EFTA and EU member states regarding EEA.
And you would additional find out that exactly it's these regulations which let to the handshake agreement between the UK and those three states.
Builder
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 12:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Are you still denying that there's collusion and corruption apparent, Walter?

You must have led a very sheltered life, son.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 01:08 am
@Builder,
Indeed, daddy, I've the reputation to be an uneducated eremite.
Builder
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 02:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
That's most unfortunate. Sounds like you're akin to many folks today, in that they have a search engine, but no idea what it is capable of.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 6 Jun, 2021 05:02 am
@Builder,
Well, pappy, I'm not unfortunate at all not to have a search engine, since this does not expose me to any attacks on which algorithms display which results and why.

But I do know how to find printed books in a library (in a few languages actually).
And I even do know how to use the internet to get access to various portals.
Additionally, I can read the results.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 7 Jun, 2021 12:02 pm
Brussels points to UK’s repeated failure to live up to its obligations but will offer concessions in effort to find solution
EU to make Northern Ireland concessions but says patience is ‘wearing thin’
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Brussels is preparing to make concessions over Northern Ireland but has warned Lord Frost ahead of a key meeting that the EU’s “patience is wearing thin” over the UK government’s repeated failure to fulfil its obligations.

In response to claims from the Brexit minister in recent weeks that the bloc had been insufficiently flexible, EU officials pointed to a series of decisions by Downing Street that had eroded trust while signalling that it was prepared to bend on some issues.

Construction on border control posts at ports in Northern Ireland had been halted in defiance of previous agreements, it was claimed by EU officials on Monday, while promises to establish tracing systems to ensure that British-made goods do not enter the Republic of Ireland had not been kept.

It was further suggested that the UK’s choice for “confrontation” over finding solutions to ease tensions in Northern Ireland offered Brussels little hope that Frost was serious about making the post-Brexit arrangements work.

Despite the bubbling frustration, Brussels will this week put pressure on the UK to change tack by publicly offering to go beyond EU law to ensure the undisrupted supply of British-approved medicines.

There will also be a derogation from EU law to permit people with guide dogs to travel unencumbered by paperwork to the rest of the UK and solutions to avoid rabies and tapeworm controls for those returning with their pets from Great Britain.

“We’re investing considerable energy to find solutions with the UK and we have done so for months,” said an EU official. “The EU has been patient. But the EU’s patience is wearing thin, and if this continues, we will have to consider all the tools and all the options that are available to us.”

The difficult atmosphere comes as the US president, Joe Biden, is expected to express concerns to Boris Johnson at the G7 summit over the impact of the dispute on peace in Northern Ireland. It is hoped in Brussels that White House pressure could still force a new approach from Downing Street.

But moves open to Brussels, if that fails to transpire, include referring the UK to binding arbitration, which could lead to financial sanctions or the suspension of parts of the Brexit withdrawal agreement.

Frost is meeting Maroš Šefčovič, the European Commission’s Brexit commissioner, in London on Wednesday to try to find solutions to the red tape that it is claimed is the cause of recent political instability in Northern Ireland.

Under a protocol in the withdrawal agreement designed to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland, Northern Ireland in effect remains in the single market and EU customs policy is enforced on goods coming from Great Britain.

In recent weeks there has been loyalist violence from those who claim their British identity is being brought into question by the arrangements.

Over the weekend, Frost wrote in the Financial Times that the repercussions of the protocol on the flow of trade between Britain and Northern Ireland had indeed been underestimated and that a change in approach and some “common sense” was required from Brussels.

The comments infuriated key capitals and officials in the European commission. Simon Coveney, Ireland’s foreign minister, suggested Frost had been more focused on “media messaging” in the UK rather than problem-solving.

France’s minister for EU affairs, Clément Beaune, suggested the UK minister had “called into question” the Northern Ireland protocol, but added that it was “not the problem. It is the solution to a problem that we have not created.”

One of the thorniest problems related to this arrangement is the need for controls on food of animal origin and plants entering Northern Ireland from Great Britain. The EU has proposed that nearly all checks at Northern Ireland’s ports could be dispensed with if the UK agreed to align with the bloc’s ​​​​​​sanitary and phytosanitary rulebook.

But on Monday, Frost reiterated his rejection of any “veterinary agreement” that would force the UK to in effect adopt EU law as it developed.

“We have already sent a proposal to the EU – it’s just not one based on alignment, ie losing control over our own laws,” Frost tweeted. “We continue to be happy to talk whenever the EU is ready.”
 

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