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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Mon 10 Dec, 2018 11:04 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Earlier, John Bercow, the Speaker, had strongly condemned government plans to pull tomorrow’s vote without giving MPs a say.
Just now, May avoided to answer a question (again) what she will do.
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Mon 10 Dec, 2018 11:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Downing Street has confirmed that the government will reject John Bercow’s call for a proper vote on delaying tomorrow’s vote.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 10 Dec, 2018 11:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
More than 50 Labour parliamentarians are urging Jeremy Corbyn to table a motion of no confidence in the government this week, with a view to the party then campaigning for a second referendum if that fails.

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/6GYyFIOl.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 10 Dec, 2018 12:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/oN218P4l.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 10 Dec, 2018 12:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Tomorrow, instead of the historic vote on Brexit, MPs will instead debate Lords amendments to the ivory bill. After that, there will be a general debate on fuel poverty.

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/Do1ccTdl.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/W8IwSVQ.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 11 Dec, 2018 03:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Speaking in the European Parliament today, Jean-Claude Juncker said re-opening the withdrawal agreement "will not happen".
He said the best the prime minister could hope for was "further clarity and further interpretations without reopening the withdrawal agreement" when she meets EU leaders. (May has arrived on the continent, will meet the German chancellor and the Dutch PM today.)

Meanwhile, in the UK, Corbyn - alongside representatives of the SNP, Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and the Green Party - has accused the May of contempt of parliament for "unilaterally" scrapping the planned vote because the government "fear they cannot command a majority".
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Lash
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 03:56 am
https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2018/dec/11/pound-low-brexit-uk-unemployment-wage-growth-imf-hammond-business-live?CMP=twt_gu

A bit of news, unexpected by me:

UK wage growth hits 10-year high

Newsflash: UK pay growth has hit its highest level in 10 years.

Basic pay jumped by 3.3% per year in the three months to October, according to the latest survey of the labour market. That’s up from 3.2% last month.

Total pay, including bonuses, also rose by 3.3% - up from 3.0%.

This is the strongest nominal pay growth since the financial crisis a decade ago, and will bring households some comfort as they watch the Brexit crisis play out.

It means wages are also still rising faster than prices -- inflation was 2.2% in October.

More to follow....
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:26 am
@Lash,
Related to Lash' topic in above post but more about Brexit:

Poor figures from John Lewis, and a slowdown at Tesco and Sainsbury’s has raised fresh concerns that the uncertain political climate is taking its toll on consumer confidence this Christmas.
December is the most lucrative time of the year for the retail sector but John Lewis said sales in its department stores fell by more than 5% last week. The picture from its fashion and homewares divisions was even weaker, with sales in both down by about 7%.
The Guardian: Retail data suggests UK political turmoil taking its toll this Christmas



Britons are growing ever more pessimistic about the state of Brexit negotiations, with even diehard leavers angry with how the past year has gone for their cause, a wide-ranging new study has found.
The research by Britain Thinks found a significant decrease in the strongest supporters of Brexit and an increase in the most pro-remain voices.
The Guardian: Brexit study finds significant decrease in diehard leave backers

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Lash
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 10:48 am
Other Brexit news today: Theresa May trapped in her car as Merkel waits, bemused, in the rain.

There’s a metaphor in there somewhere...
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:00 am
@Lash,
During the referendum campaign in 2016. Michael Gove, the environment secretary who was then a leader of the Vote Leave campaign, warned that if the UK stayed in the EU, we would be like 'hostages locked in the back of the car'.

But today, May's various talks were also stuck, not just the car's door in Berlin.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 11:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Had to laugh, but a crushing moment.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 12:20 pm
https://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/bertrams_2018-12-10-2689.jpg
by Joep Bertrams
ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 04:56 pm
@Olivier5,
https://soundcloud.com/cbc-as-it-happens-1/hugo-rifkind-reads-his-brexit-cheese-submarine-thread

Quote:
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You've seen @hugorifkind comparing #brexit to a cheese submarine. Now, listen to him recite his thread on the phone from a pub bathroom.
livinglava
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 05:43 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Other Brexit news today: Theresa May trapped in her car as Merkel waits, bemused, in the rain.

There’s a metaphor in there somewhere...

It it similar to the one where Merkel's plane lost communication and got diverted causing her to miss the G20? . . . because that seemed like some kind of metaphor too for some reason.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 11 Dec, 2018 08:23 pm
@livinglava,
Seems like karma at work.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 01:53 am
@cicerone imposter,

Brexit in chaos as Tory MPs trigger vote of no confidence in May

Quote:
Conservative MPs have triggered a vote of no confidence in Theresa May, plunging the Brexit process into chaos as Tory colleagues indicated they no longer had faith in the prime minister to deliver the deal.

Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee, has received at least 48 letters from Conservative MPs calling for a vote of no confidence in May. Under party rules, a contest is triggered if 15% of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the committee of Tory backbenchers.

A ballot will be held on Wednesday evening between 6pm and 8pm, Brady said, with votes counted “immediately afterwards and an announcement will be made as soon as possible”.

In a press release, he said: “The threshold of 15% of the parliamentary party seeking a vote of confidence in the leader of the Conservative party has been exceeded.”

The prime minister will now need the backing of at least 158 Tory MPs to see off the Brexiters’ challenge, and her position would then be safe for 12 months. However, the prime minister could decide to resign if votes against her were below the threshold to topple her, but significant enough in number.
... ... ...
Lash
 
  1  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I think that woman needs a break from the stress if responsibility for the future of England, but it seems haphazard to plop another person in her spot at this particular juncture.

I guess we’ll see.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Wed 12 Dec, 2018 02:39 am
@ehBeth,
Is he implying that British chedar is some sub-par engineering material? Why, it's certainly stronger than French camember!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 12 Dec, 2018 05:19 am
@Lash,
If the prime minister survives the new vote – taking place between 18:00 h and 20:00 h tonight – place and sees off a leadership challenge, she would be rewarded with a year’s immunity from a fresh coup attempt under the rules of the 1922.
But if she were to lose, she would be obliged to step down and allow for the election of a replacement, once again plunging Westminster into chaos, a circumstance she has emphatically cautioned against.
Even if she were to win the initial battle, however, she could still lose the war. If a large enough minority of MPs vote against her – 100 is thought to be in the region of the magic number – then her cabinet may advise her to step down anyway.

More infos by the Independent: Conservative leadership: Who could replace Theresa May as Tory leader if she loses no confidence vote?
 

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