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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 8 Nov, 2018 09:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
More interesting perhaps not only for one person and her father.
the state's and city of Hamburg >Brexit-website<
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://www.hamburg.de/g20-gipfel/faq-english-version/
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lmur
 
  1  
Thu 8 Nov, 2018 03:39 pm
Jesus H. Christ.

Brexit Secretary Raab 'did not understand importance of EU trade to British economy.'
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1108/1009607-brexit/
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 01:12 am
@lmur,
As Rafael Behr puts it: "It is no longer surprising that people who were once confident that Britain had nothing to lose by leaving the EU neither understood what Brexit meant in practice, nor thought to ask."

Has nobody told Dominic Raab that Britain is an island?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 03:23 am
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/i8KnNtml.png
lmur
 
  2  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 08:28 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Prof. Brian Cox imagines - ‘Is it possible’, Minister Raab asks his closest advisors, ‘that this big blob of land here’ - jabbing at a map with his croissant - ‘over this little channel of sea just off the coast of Dover, might be important in the context of this brexity thing we’re doing?’
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 10:20 am
@lmur,
Jo Johnson has resigned as a UK government minister, warning that Britain “stands on the brink of the greatest crisis” since the second world war and calling for a public vote on the final Brexit deal.
Describing the Brexit deal currently being negotiated as a "terrible mistake", he said that the negotiations have been the biggest "failure of British statecraft" since the Suez crisis.


Jo Johnson quits as minister over Theresa May's Brexit plan
ehBeth
 
  1  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 10:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
oh my
Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 01:34 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Fri 9 Nov, 2018 01:36 pm
@ehBeth,
Boris's brother Jo Johnson has resigned, in the latest act of Brexit as low rent family psychodrama
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sat 10 Nov, 2018 07:12 am
@Walter Hinteler,
EU leaders say key Brexit issues still not resolved in fresh blow for Theresa May
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Ambassadors told of no significant progress on the Irish border, with the two sides also still far apart on fishing rights

EU leaders have thrown Theresa May’s hopes of a Brexit deal this month into fresh jeopardy, after warning that crucial obstacles remain.

A meeting in Brussels was told there had been no significant progress on how to settle future disputes over the Irish border, with the two sides also still far apart on fishing rights.

The verdict, delivered at a briefing of EU27 ambassadors by the Brussels negotiating team, cast fresh doubt on the prime minister’s hopes of agreeing an outline deal by the middle of next week.

If that deadline is missed, it is unlikely that an emergency summit to sign it off can be held in November – throwing back a final agreement until the middle of December.

That would leave the UK having to ramp off hugely-expensive no-deal preparations and in danger of being unable to pass all necessary legislation before Brexit day next March.

An “optimistic” timetable, floated by Downing Street, imagined Dominic Raab, the Brexit secretary, and Michel Barnier, the EU negotiator, presented with a legal text agreed by officials on Tuesday.

But the ambassadors meeting was told, by Mr Barnier’s deputy Sabine Weyand, that there was no agreement on a joint review mechanism to allow the UK to break free of the Irish border “backstop”.

Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, raised the stakes when he insisted that decision must be made alone by the “sovereign British government”, without EU involvement.

The fear of pro-Brexit Tories is that the UK will be locked indefinitely into the EU customs union – unable to sign its own trade deals – unless it can end the backstop unilaterally.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 11 Nov, 2018 02:38 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The biggest challenge for Prime Minister Theresa May is how to bring together Brexit fanatics and EU fans within her own ranks. She depends on this if she wants to get a Brexit deal through parliament without the help of the opposition. Her already shaky coalition with the radical conservative Northern Irish DUP has only a thin majority of five votes.

But both sides are not even thinking about deviating from their maximum demands - it's just the opposite


Brexit timetable thrown into turmoil as Theresa May is forced to cancel planned cabinet meeting to approve her deal
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Theresa May has been forced to abandon plans for an emergency cabinet meeting to approve a Brexit deal, after fresh opposition at home and abroad plunged her timetable into turmoil.

The prime minister shelved the meeting, pencilled in for Monday, slamming on the brakes after fierce resistance in her cabinet and in Brussels threatened to derail the path to an agreement.

A government source conceded that an outline deal might not be ready by Tuesday – making it increasingly unlikely that a special EU summit to sign it off can be held in November, as hoped.

That would leave the UK having to ramp up hugely expensive no-deal preparations and in danger of being unable to pass all necessary legislation before the Brexit deadline next March.

At home, Ms May faced an open challenge to her plans from Andrea Leadsom, the Commons leader, who vowed the UK “cannot be held against its will” by the backstop plan for the Irish border.

Ms Leadsom became the second cabinet minister to insist on a unilateral power to escape being bound in the EU customs union – something explicitly ruled out by Brussels.

In the Belgian capital, talks between UK and EU officials hit a wall over how to terminate the backstop, with fishing rights another key obstacle.

Meanwhile, there was fresh confusion over Labour’s stance on a Final Say referendum on the Brexit outcome – with Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, directly contradicting Jeremy Corbyn.

Cabinet ministers had been told to “clear their diaries” for an “approve the deal” meeting at the end of last week, a get together then put back until Monday.

But, the source told The Independent: “There is not going to be one tomorrow.”

They added: “The cabinet will meet as normal on Tuesday, but I can’t say if it going to be a Brexit cabinet or not, because the negotiations are ongoing.”
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 12 Nov, 2018 08:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
reuters: Chaos, deal or new vote: What is the grand Brexit finale?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 12 Nov, 2018 01:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Why are they fighting this unnecessary fight? Brexit was a bad idea when it was first proposed. Most people who studied Economics knows open and free trade is the best policy for all concerned. It provides for competition in price and quality, the most important issue for everybody. Trump's tariffs is another stupid idea; it will only end up costing more for all consumers, and it's already started a trade war. The end result is increased cost for everybody.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 12 Nov, 2018 03:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
PM May says efforts are going on "through the night", but the negotiations are "immensely difficult".
BBC report
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ehBeth
 
  3  
Mon 12 Nov, 2018 05:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
fascinating - will let hamburgboy know

thanks Smile
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 13 Nov, 2018 02:16 pm
@ehBeth,
Meanwhile, the Brexit divorce deal with the
EU has been agreed by the UK, but May's opponents vow to thwart it. (All at the reuters report)

malc jones
 
  1  
Tue 13 Nov, 2018 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
@Walter Hinteler,
Why are they fighting this unnecessary fight? Brexit was a bad idea when it was first proposed. Most people who studied Economics knows open and free trade is the best policy for all concerned. It provides for competition in price and quality, the most important issue for everybody.



Might be a good idea to tell your president this Walter.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Wed 14 Nov, 2018 12:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The European Union’s 27 national ambassadors meeting on the draft Brexit deal in Brussels today ended their session with no word from London on whether the British cabinet has approved it - the announced No. 10 press conference is postponed ... ...
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Wed 14 Nov, 2018 12:56 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
May tries to sell Brexit deal but opposition mounts
Quote:
LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Theresa May sought to sell a draft Brexit deal to her ministers on Wednesday but faced mounting opposition from some MPs and allies who said it threatened the government and the unity of the United Kingdom.

The BBC’s political editor said anger among Brexit-supporting MPs in May’s Conservative Party was so high that it was likely they would call on Thursday for a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the party.

May, the weakest British leader in a generation, hailed her deal ahead of a crunch meeting with senior ministers, but opponents in her party said it was a surrender to the EU and they would vote it down.

The cabinet meeting began at 1400 GMT but was still going on more than four hours later, prompting speculation that May could be struggling to convince her most senior allies that she should put the draft deal to the test in parliament.

“Senior Tory (Conservative) tells me Brexiteer anger so high that seems likely there will be a call for no-confidence vote tomorrow - letters going in,” BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg said.

A leadership challenge can be triggered if 15 percent of Conservative MPs write letters demanding a confidence vote to the chairman of the party’s “1922 Committee”, which represents MPs who have no government jobs.
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