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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 7 Nov, 2017 07:31 am
@Lash,
From the above source:
Quote:
Given that the public's confidence in Brexit negotiations is at an all-time low, it would seem that the macro-political situation in the UK is not a major influence on people's personal happiness.
...
"Despite these improvements, real household disposable income per head fell for the fourth quarter in a row and, for the first time in two years, consumers reported a worsening perception of their own financial situation in April to June 2017."
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 23 Nov, 2017 10:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/Vh9gcmk.jpg

The statement confirmed the story broken by news site Politico early Thursday morning. The portal had gained access to a letter from Martine Reicherts, the director-general of the Commission's department for culture, which had been sent to the UK's own culture department in London the day before.

While certain non-EU nations are eligible to host the year-long series of cultural events, the letter pointed out that, "this Action is not open to third countries, except for candidate countries and EFTA/EEA countries under strict conditions," using the abbreviations for the European Free Trade Association and the European Economic Area respectively.
Great Britain has said it will not remain a member of the European common market after it leaves the EU bloc.

Cities in Turkey and Serbia have been Capitals of Culture because they have begun the accession process, while Norway is part of the EEA.

British media had reported that six cities had put themselves into the national running to be selected as the UK's choice for 2023: Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast and Derry. Some cities had already started promotional campaignssupporting their run to be put forth by the UK as the 2023 city.
Source
lmur
 
  2  
Thu 23 Nov, 2017 01:27 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
There may be hope for Belfast and Derry if the 6 counties decide their future lies down south!
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 24 Nov, 2017 10:48 am
@lmur,
At first, they must get an (better: one) idea ... Wink

Quote:
UK government ministers do not understand the consequences of Brexit, a British judge on the European Court of Justice has warned, according to a leaked report that reveals EU fears about the impact of “chaos in the Conservative government”.

Ian Forrester, who has been the UK’s representative at the court since 2015, reportedly told Irish diplomats that British ministers do not “grasp” the complexities of leaving the EU and claimed there were “issues around the quality of politicians in Westminster at present”.

The comments were recorded in a confidential Irish government report leaked to RTE.
Source

RTE: European dismay at UK 'chaos and confusion' over Brexit
centrox
 
  1  
Fri 24 Nov, 2017 12:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Ian Forrester, who has been the UK’s representative at the court since 2015, reportedly told Irish diplomats that British ministers do not “grasp” the complexities of leaving the EU and claimed there were “issues around the quality of politicians in Westminster at present”.

Very sensible man, Ian Forrester. Skilled in international law, a graduate of Glasgow University and Tulane University, Louisiana, became a QC in 1988. He is a member of the New York State Bar, the Bar of England and Wales, and the Brussels Bar.
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lmur
 
  1  
Fri 24 Nov, 2017 02:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Opportunistic opposition parties here look like they might force a General Election. Perfect timing!
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/1124/922660-connelly-talks-analysis/
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Fri 24 Nov, 2017 02:46 pm
@lmur,
We are living with a managing government since and for some time ...
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sat 25 Nov, 2017 09:15 am
@lmur,
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DUP leader Arlene Foster has written to the leaders of all 27 EU countries, telling them that Northern Ireland will not tolerate any difference in status between itself and the rest of the United Kingdom, after the UK leaves the EU.

Earlier this week, it had been suggested that Northern Ireland might remain in the customs union after Brexit, to prevent a hard border between itself and the Irish Republic. But, speaking to the DUP annual conference in Belfast, Ms Foster made clear that Northern Ireland would leave the customs union.
Source
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Blickers
 
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Sat 25 Nov, 2017 12:40 pm
That's nice. Too bad Arlene Foster isn't the head of the Northern Ireland governent, and therefore that letter is nothing but the opinion of a single Northern Irish parliament member.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 25 Nov, 2017 12:51 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
That's nice. Too bad Arlene Foster isn't the head of the Northern Ireland governent, and therefore that letter is nothing but the opinion of a single Northern Irish parliament member.


I do think that the Conservative–DUP agreement has a lot of influence and is more than just "the opinion of a single Northern Irish parliament member".

But might well be that you know more.
lmur
 
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Sat 25 Nov, 2017 12:54 pm
@Blickers,
Arlene Foster is First Minister in the devolved NI parliament.
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Blickers
 
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Sat 25 Nov, 2017 07:21 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote Walter:
Quote:
I do think that the Conservative–DUP agreement has a lot of influence and is more than just "the opinion of a single Northern Irish parliament member".

No more influence than a letter from Obama to world leaders would carry today as regards to what the United States government will do.

She was the head of government. She is no longer. But she'll send out letters pretending to be the head of government because it makes her feel good.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 25 Nov, 2017 11:09 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
She was the head of government.
She still is the leader of the DUP.
Blickers
 
  0  
Sat 25 Nov, 2017 11:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Nancy Pelosi is still the head of the Democratic Party in the House but she doesn't send letters out to foreign leaders telling them what the US policy is going to be.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:03 am
@Blickers,
Pelosi's party doesn't have an agreement to support the current US-government ... as far as I know.

May must hope her narrow-minded allies in the Democratic Unionist party to fall into line. And stop neglecting Ireland.
Blickers
 
  0  
Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Pelosi and Foster are in identical situations in that neither has the political position to enforce their goals. The only difference seems to be that Pelosi does not pretend she has this power, but Foster is pretending she does.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:31 am
@Blickers,
The DUP does have a great influence at Westminster via the Conservative–DUP agreement.

What do you consider to be the "identical situation, and what is Foster pretending about this agreement"???
Blickers
 
  0  
Sun 26 Nov, 2017 11:09 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The Conservative-DUP agreement is an agreement between a UK wide party and and Northern Ireland minority party. Absolutely none of which makes Arlene Foster the head of Northern Ireland, a position which is vacant. Yet Foster arrogates to herself the right to send letters to foreign leaders outlining Northern Ireland's position re the EU as if she was the head of state or empowered by the head of state. She is neither.

Her situation is similar to Nancy Pelosi's in that she is a prominent leader in a political party that is not in power at the moment. So officially, neither woman can speak or send letters to foreign leaders announcing any governmental policy, like Foster did.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 26 Nov, 2017 11:51 pm
@Blickers,
Well, you really should tell your opinion to the UK politicians and media - that would solve the problem they have now immediately.

Blickers
 
  0  
Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
For all I know, legally Northern Ireland might not be able to stay in the EU or even have any EU policy separate from the UK's as a whole. I am unfamiliar with the agreements behind the making of the UK. Maybe Northern Ireland can chart its own course as regards the EU, maybe not. It would not surprise me if the issue is somewhat up in the air, legally.

But whatever position Northern Ireland is in as regards to the EU, the letter from Arlene Foster to the heads of other countries changes nothing. She is no longer in a position of legal power to enforce anything anymore than any other member of the Northern Ireland parliament, she is no longer head of state. This letter implies that she is, or the fact that the position of power she once held is now vacant should be considered a mere formality.

It's really insulting to the heads of other countries, for Arlene Foster seems to think she can pull off the old trick of "Tell everyone you are in charge and maybe they'll be nuts enough to go along with it".
 

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