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Turkish intel chief tries to defend support of ISIS

 
 
Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2015 01:54 am
http://fortruss.blogspot.ie/2015/11/turkish-intelligence-chief-isis-is.html
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2015 01:25 am
@gungasnake,
The blog you linked to begins with a quote purportedly from the Anadolu News Agency.

The actual Anadolu News Agency website offers the following statement:

"We hereby state that the recent stories on some foreign media outlets claiming that Anadolu Agency did an interview with Turkish National Intelligence Organization (MIT) Undersecretary Hakan Fidan and published it are totally false."

http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/statement-from-anadolu-agency-/448685

Note that the Fort Russ blogspot is a Russian source. The blog seems to mix some true and some apparently false information together in a way that is suggestive of professional propaganda.

gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2015 06:07 am
@puzzledperson,
The Ft. Russ article was reporting on a totally straight up simple interview:

Quote:
“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” - Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.


That is totally consistent with the character of Erdogan and the company he keeps. It is also highly logical that a turkish news agency which reported something like that would immediately get leaned on and forced to issue some sort of weasel-worded retraction.
puzzledperson
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2015 06:56 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote: "It is also highly logical that a turkish news agency which reported something like that would immediately get leaned on and forced to issue some sort of weasel-worded retraction."

Not really. If the news agency published the supposed interview, its existence would be a matter of record, and a denial two days later stating that no such interview occurred, would scarcely be credible.

Where is the published interview? The Fort Russ blogspot mysteriously omits a link to it, even though it gives a link to the denial. A story like that would spread like wildfire and even if the original source subsequently took it down, it would be picked up by wire agencies as well as generating a cached version which should still be available through Google. We are after all talking about something supposedly published in October of this year.

The denial states that the Turkish intelligence agency does not give media interviews of the sort. And frankly, is it credible that the very experienced head of that agency would make such incredibly controversial statements publicly kneecapping the alliance to which Turkey now belongs, and speaking to "western colleagues" through the mass media?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2015 09:51 am
@puzzledperson,
There is no shortage of other agencies reporting the same interview/story:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q="ISIS+is+a+reality+and+we+have+to+accept+that+we+cannot+eradicate+a+well-organized+and+popular+establishment"&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
puzzledperson
 
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Reply Sun 20 Dec, 2015 07:24 pm
@gungasnake,
The fact that a story can spread across the Blogosphere from a single initial source does not support your point. The ultimate source for your story seems to be AWD News. The "About" link on their home page doesn't work, but judging from the stories carried they are connected to Russian interests.

To show their lack of credibility, consider this silly article claiming that the United States bombed some Russian intelligence officers in Syria because they had discovered a "secret ISIS base in Tennessee":

http://awdnews.com/top-news/us-attack-russian-spies-who-uncover-secret-isis-base-in-tennessee

Show me one reputable western news outlet carrying your story with the fake interview.
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