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Does "By a model" refer to "by means of a model"?

 
 
Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 11:11 am
I failed to find a way to rephrase "by a model"? "In light of a model"? Not properly explained to me. What does it mean?

Context:
The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret,
they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical con-
struct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations,
describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathemat-
ical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work.
-Jon von Neumann
 
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 11:19 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
By a model is meant a mathematical con-
struct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations,
describes observed phenomena.


A model is defined as a mathematical construct which, (the rest of the sentence needs improvement as well)

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The problem you've run into is that the original was either a translation from Dutch to English or was written by someone who is still learning English.
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 11:31 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Quote:
By a model is meant a mathematical con-
struct which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations,
describes observed phenomena.


A model is defined as a mathematical construct which, (the rest of the sentence needs improvement as well)

___

The problem you've run into is that the original was either a translation from Dutch to English or was written by someone who is still learning English.


Was his English not good enough? Not sure:
Quote:
John von Neumann (Hungarian: Neumann János, /vɒn ˈnɔɪmən/; December 28, 1903 – February 8, 1957) was a Hungarian-American pure and applied mathematician, physicist, inventor, and polymath.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann#Mastery_of_mathematics


ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 12:05 pm
@oristarA,
oops - Hungarian, not Dutch

in any case, his written English was not very good
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Tes yeux noirs
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 12:09 pm
The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret,
they mainly make models. The word "model" is used to mean a mathematical construct etc
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layman
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 12:14 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
Not properly explained to me.


In the general sense, a model is not an explanation. It is not a scientific theory. It is merely a mathematical tool they use to try to mimic known observations, and then project them into the future for the purpose of making "predictions."

Which is basically what he already said. I'm just rephrasing it in a way that you might find easier to understand.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 12:34 pm
"Johnny" von Neumann was regarded by his contemporaries as a very intelligent man indeed: very rapid in comprehension - a common speculation has been which of Einstein and von Neumann was the more intelligent. It can fairly be said that Einstein made a very deep contribution to science in one area, whereas von Neumann made less deep (but still very significant) contributions in remarkably many areas. I think Eugene Wigner said it best: "Einstein's understanding was deeper even than von Neumann's. His mind was both more penetrating and more original than von Neumann's. And that is a very remarkable statement."

Wigner also said: "I have known a great many intelligent people in my life. I knew Planck, von Laue and Heisenberg. Paul Dirac was my brother in law; Leo Szilard and Edward Teller have been among my closest friends; and Albert Einstein was a good friend, too. But none of them had a mind as quick and acute as Jansci [John] von Neumann. I have often remarked this in the presence of those men and no one ever disputed me."
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2015 01:05 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Informative.
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