Quote:Science can break down and identify every basic element of a flower seed in the most minute detail, but no scientist can make a flower seed that works.
Honestly how many people have tried or cared. We know how most things work. And also just because science does not have an answer to certain questions NOW (and I'm sure we could find many it couldn't) that does not mean answers don't exist. In science we find the answers if it has not been found before. If we cannot find the source of love, then research and test until we do. There may be an answer not yet taken into account, if God is that answer than science hsould back that up. I feel the answer is nurture (as in where you grow up and how you are raised) and hormones. They may or may not be the right answer but it makes more sense than creating a god to answer questions.
guys...i think you need to every thing about your defense AND your opponents defense as well you need to reashearch thoughly what you debate in order to debate...chatch my drift?
basicly what im saying...you need to know about both side of your topic before you debate it
How ironic it is that so many are willing to admit how many things science can't explain, and yet are so sure there is no God.
jrob, youre slurring your words. Im not sure what youre saying. edit your post and maybe theres a sentence and a thought therein.
You mean provide evidence without appealing to authority? That's fine. But most of the things I say here come from my own logic or my bio class, or
http://www.creationtheory.org
And yes, I know what strawman and red herring are.
i was about to start on that topic
Lucifer wrote:You mean provide evidence without appealing to authority? That's fine. But most of the things I say here come from my own logic or my bio class, or
http://www.creationtheory.org
And yes, I know what strawman and red herring are.
do you go to a public hight school?
ne way...i have to leave ill be back tomorow
No, I'm at university, thank you very much.
And Fox fyre,
Saying that science doesn't have an explanation now is not absolute. There will be one in the future. Just as people reasoned the Earth was flat, when now we say it's not. Just because it wasn't explained doesn't mean it never will. I'm not disputing the existence of god, but how can you or anyone be so sure that he exists? Like I said, how do you know a creature with a hundred eyes, blue fur, gold scales and a myriad of tentacles exists or doesn't exist? You may be happier to believe that god exists, but other people may not. Our morals differ.
Sureness comes from experience, but those who have not experienced cannot know such sureness I guess. But at any rate, it has been a very interesting discussion. Thanks Lucifer.
jrob wrote:Lucifer wrote:You mean provide evidence without appealing to authority? That's fine. But most of the things I say here come from my own logic or my bio class, or
http://www.creationtheory.org
And yes, I know what strawman and red herring are.
do you go to a public hight school?
Public hight school...I wish they had that when I was young. I'm only 5'6" on a good day.
Sureness to me comes from logic and common sense. If I see a "miracle", I would appreciate the challenge of finding out how it works.
Wow. You completely ignored my previous message.
Let me make something clear. I'm a great believer in evolution, and a great admirer of science. But if you want to win this sort of debate you don't talk about it. Why? Because believers will have answers like "God put dinosaur bones in the ground. Why? Because god works in mysterious ways". There are only two arenas where you can actually fight fairly:
A. The multiple religions and the authenticity of just one (and why this one and not another, etc. Mostly comes to show that people can invent religion and that there is nothing special about this religion than any other).
B. Logic. I can't overemphasize this. There may be a proof for the existence of god or the lack of which. God is beyond history (we naturally can't prove logically anything about the roman empire). God is a "reason" for the entire universe and it assumes much about how the universe ticks. It is extremely likely that there is a mathematical proof one way or the other (I'm not talking about those faulted "logic proofs" that have been offered before about the existence of god. They weren't serious).
Why would you need to believe in evolution when you know it's observable and testable? You already know it's true. You can't believe in evolution because it's not a religion. But you can think that evolution is true.
im gonna make waffles for breakfass. I like waffles, waffles are good.
If you say waffle a couple of times, it doesnt sound like a word .
i believe in waffles.
Try saying 'yeasts' a few times....very amusing.
hey cav, If I want a real old fashioned waffle flavor, the kind that had a sweet and crusty taste, can i add more sugar and butter over the recipe?
all recipe batters Ive used , dont have that waffley taste. There is a batter made for funnel cakes that is pretty good but its pre mixed and no ingredients are quantified
farmerman, I just found a cool waffle link which I shall share:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2830/bbwaff.html These recipes are real creationism...
