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What to do with Sudan??

 
 
fishin
 
Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 08:46 pm
Sudan has been a source of strife and problems for some time now and no one has really come up with a solution that works for long.

The latest:

Quote:
Sudan: No talks says rebel group
Sunday, July 25, 2004 Posted: 5:15 AM EDT (0915 GMT)

KHARTOUM, Sudan -- A rebel leader from Sudan's troubled Darfur region says his group will not talk to the Sudanese government until it disarms Arab militias, casting doubts on U.N. hopes of fresh peace talks.

Sudan said it was improving security and aid in the western region, as European countries joined Washington in heaping pressure on Khartoum to end a conflict that threatens millions of lives and has been labeled genocide by the U.S. Congress.

Complete story on CNN.


They have racial issues, religious issues, economic issues, etc.. all playing into this mess. Is there any long term hope?
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pueo
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 10:29 pm
not really up to speed on this. from what i've read, it seems to be a huge mess.

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News Article by AP posted on July 23, 2004 at 19:42:07: EST (-5 GMT)

Sudanese foreign minister rejects U.S. claims of genocide in Darfur

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- Sudan's foreign minister rejected American claims Friday that the killings of thousands of black civilians by Arab militias in his country amounted to genocide.

Speaking to reporters ahead of talks late Friday with Javier Solana, the European Union's foreign policy chief at EU headquarters, Sudanese Foreign Minister Mustafa Osman Ismail said his government was doing all it could to solve the humanitarian crisis.

Ismail dismissed resolutions passed this week by the U.S. Congress declaring the killings in Sudan's Darfur region amount to "genocide."

"Congress is always biased, I would rather say what the Africans who are concerned with this case" are saying, Ismail said. "They issued a resolution at an African summit that they stated clearly that there is no genocide in Darfur."

Meeting this month in Ethiopia, the African Union pressed Sudan to "neutralize" the Arab militiamen and others involved in massive human rights violations in Darfur but said they did not consider the atrocities to be genocide.

Ismail said Friday his government, along with the United Nations, Britain, Germany and France had "unanimously" agreed that "there was significant improvement considering the humanitarian affairs" situation in Sudan.

"We are cooperating with the U.N.," he said.

EU officials said Solana took Ismail to task for not acting quick enough to implement U.N. demands to disarm Arab militias or face U.N. sanctions. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has also warned Sudan it could face U.N. sanctions if it does not act.

Ismail was slated to discuss the Darfur crisis at a meeting with Dutch Foreign Minister Ben Bot on Saturday in The Hague, on Saturday. The Netherlands currently holds the EU presidency.

Solana was expected to tell Ismail to work harder to stop the atrocities in Darfur, a region where pro-government militias called Janjaweed have killed up to 30,000 people, most of them black Africans, and driven over 1 million from their homes in the 15-month conflict.

The Sudanese foreign minister acknowledged he needed the help of the international community in ending the Darfur crisis.

"In Darfur there is a problem, a humanitarian problem, a security problem, a political problem," Ismail said. "We need the support of the international community to send the correct message to the rebels that they should observe the cease-fire. They should be serious in the political negotiations."

The 25-nation EU, the United States and humanitarian groups have accused the Sudanese government of backing the militias -- a claim it denies.

The EU wants a political solution to the crisis, and has urged rebel groups, who walked out of peace talks last week to return to the negotiating table.

Rebels insisted that the government honor the terms of previous peace agreements before beginning new talks.

EU foreign ministers are expected to discuss the Darfur crisis when they meet Monday in Brussels.
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Thok
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 12:45 am
look also here
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25810
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2004 06:54 pm
here is an article from the Economist.Com on the issue

(free registration required, and worth it for this site, I think:

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=2962157 )

"Stepping up the pressure on Sudan

Jul 30th 2004
From The Economist Global Agenda


The UN Security Council has passed a resolution threatening Sudan's government with sanctions if it does not quickly disarm the Arab militiamen who have been slaughtering black Africans in the Darfur region. This follows the African Union's unprecedented threat of military intervention to protect Darfuris"

The article goes on to say that

"sanctions will follow if the Arab-led government of Sudan does not, within 30 days, disarm the Arab militia, known as the janjaweed, that has been slaughtering, raping and terrorising black African civilians in the Darfur region of Sudan. The resolution passed by 13-0 with two abstentions (China and Pakistan). America, which drafted the text, replaced the explicit reference to sanctions with a threat of action under article 41 of the UN charter?which lists a wide range of economic and diplomatic embargoes that might be imposed."

And - here we have a newish player - the African Union (some info on this body - they have a fascinating website: http://www.africa-union.org/home/Welcome.htm )

"The resolution also came three days after the African Union's unprecedented decision to consider expanding its observer mission in Darfur into a full-scale peacekeeping mission: if this happens, it would be the AU's first military intervention in a member state. Already, the AU's firmness over Sudan is a sharp contrast to the largely ineffectual Organisation of African Unity, which it replaced two years ago, and which routinely turned a blind eye to atrocities in member countries."


The AU has its OWN "Peace and Security council" and "it is now contemplating a much larger contingent, with the specific job of disarming the militiamen. If ever such an intervention force were needed, it is needed right now in Darfur where, so far, perhaps 50,000 have died and more than 1m have fled their homes. The UN says it is the world's worst humanitarian disaster and aid agencies fear that the death toll may eventually run into hundreds of thousands."

"Sudan?s authoritarian regime, led by President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, continues to deny arming and backing the janjaweed, though there is plenty of reliable evidence that it is doing so."

Who are these "janjaweed" I asked:

BBC version: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3613953.stm

Wikipedia:

The Janjaweed (also known as Janjawid or Jingaweit) is an armed militia group in Darfur, western Sudan, comprising fighters of Muslim Arab background (mainly from the Baggara tribe). Since 2003 it has been one of the principal actors in the increasingly bloody Darfur conflict, which has pitted Arabs against the black African population (also Muslim) of the region. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed

And MSN's version:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2104210/


Some countries already volunterring for peace keeping missions for the UN:

"Britain, Australia and New Zealand have indicated that they could contribute troops to any UN peacekeeping force?though Colin Powell, America?s secretary of state, said on Tuesday it was too early to be contemplating military intervention. The Sudanese government has threatened to attack any foreign troops that enter the country. But it may be harder to resist them if they come from Sudan?s neighbours in the AU rather than from ?colonialist? rich countries."

Why is it happening:

"The conflict in Darfur began early last year, when black African rebel groups began an uprising over a number of long-standing grievances and the government retaliated by unleashing the janjaweed on the civilian population."

Some Economist.com background on the conflict:

http://www.economist.com/research/backgrounders/displayBackgrounder.cfm?bg=2962169
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