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Carpe Diem

 
 
Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:19 pm
Carpe Diem

"Seize the day"

- Horace





p.s. does anyone know what 'seize the moment' is in this language?(roman) carpe noctum - seize the night.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:29 pm
Welcome to A2K, decemberkid!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:36 pm
one day just seems to run into the next. and WELCOME DECEMBERKID
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decemberkid
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:38 pm
thanks
thanks thanks thanks
nice to meet y'all.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:41 pm
Yes welcome, kid, and here's another quote:

Honi soit qui mal y pense

(Shame be to him who thinks evil of it)
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:45 pm
Hmm, it appears on some national emblem, if I am not mistaken? Maybe French, Canadian or Belgian? I mean, Honi soit etc.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:46 pm
It's the motto of the Knights of the Garter in Great Britain...
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 03:49 pm
UK? Then why is not this in English?
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 04:03 pm
Well, it's a bit complicated, but national borders and cultures were a bit more fluid in the middle ages. Check out this site:

http://www.expage.com/guardsman16
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 04:12 pm
There are, as mentioned on D'artagnan's link, some quite romantic stories about the origin of this.
"[...] One theory is that Edward III wished to revive the Round Table of Arthurian legend. The order was established to commemorate an incident in which Edward was dancing when one of his partner's blue garters dropped to the floor. As bystanders snickered, Edward gallantly picked up the garter and put it on his own leg, admonishing the courtiers in French with the phrase that remains the order's motto, "Honi soit qui mal y pense" ("Shame to him who thinks evil of it," popularly rendered as"Evil to him who evil thinks"). The king inaugurated the Order of the Garter with a great feast and joust, but the identity of the lady thus granted immortality is uncertain. The most popular candidate is Joan, "Fair Maid of Kent," the king's cousin, but Katharine Grandison, Countess of Salisbury, has a strong claim, and one Tudor historian named the lady as the queen, Philippa of Hainault." (from: britannica encyclopædia)
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 04:41 pm
Thanks for comprehensive explanation, Mr. Hinteler. It was really new for me and very interesting.
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jan, 2003 04:45 pm
Thanks to Monsieur d'Artagnan for an interesting link as well.
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decemberkid
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 01:05 am
eh..
eh.. so no one knows what "Seize the moment" is in Roman language?
heh. if you do know or have a clue, dont hesitate to leave a note.
good times.
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pueo
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 01:19 am
i always thought it meant carp day. seemed pretty strange to make that so popular. carp are nice and all, but a day dedicated to them?

thanks for the clarification. :wink:
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 01:23 am
yeppies - carpe the smegging diem, that is my motto.....



yikes! steissd and decemberkid are making me dizzy with the avatar thing!!!!!
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 10:21 am
Carpe diem IS generally understood to mean to seize the moment.

e.g.

'in horam vivere' = to live for the moment = 'in diem vivere'

I don't think it HAS to be verbatim. Anywho I'll just add this and let some Latin expert have his/her say.

occasio -onis f. a favorable moment , opportunity.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 10:27 am
OH! I see what you mean, Deb.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 04:52 pm
Dizzying, no?
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decemberkid
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 10:15 pm
no subject
by the way, i watched 'just married' and it's not bad. Ms. murphy is cute.
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jjorge
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jan, 2003 10:28 pm
"Seize the Day??? What do you mean???

Carpe diem has always been my motto but I always thought they were saying "Seize your date!"
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