Re: Sharon calls for Jews to get out of France.
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:Ariel Sharon's call for Jews to leave France and live in Israel for their own safety would be laughable if it wasn't so sinister.
Yes it's laughable alright. Can't see anything sinister here though.
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:He wants French people of Jewish religion to swap their EU/French passports for Israeli passports. (Presumably making world travel that much easier/more exciting?).
Why swap? What about dual citizenship? Besides, it's not so bad - I travel visa-free in most countries you do (including EU). Oh, I can't visit some of the educated countries like Malaysia who believe that I'm a part of worldwide conspiracy.
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:He wants them to leave the EU of 450 million people for the wonderful job prospects and opportunities of a basket case economy, where peace and security doesn't exist.
Yes. Although I believe some might do this for ideological reasons.
Also, Israeli economy is not so basket case.
GDP per capita is not as high as in France, but way higher than of most of the new EU members:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp_cap&id=EUR&id=is
total GDP:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp&id=EUR&id=is
But hey, US pays for all this, right? Nope:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_rec_gdp&id=EUR&id=is
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_rec_cap&id=EUR&id=is
Also an interesting piece of data: national innovative capacity of Israel is higher than that of Japan, Italy, Belgium or Spain. Are those basket economies?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_inn
(Sources are: CIA factbook, UN statistics)
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:Yet he suggests that Jews get out of France for their own safety!
What possible inducements could he offer? Guaranteed jobs in the form of conscription into the Israeli Defense Force? Free bus passes?
As I pointed out earlier, the reasons are mostly ideological plus national identification / religious. And yes, as I was told by those who arrived from France, it's a ***hole compared to France, but it's more fun being a Jew here than there (yes, keeping in mind the suicide bombings).
As for the material part, there are extensive newcomer aid programs (loans, gifts, free Hebrew courses, tax exemption, etc.).
BTW: this might surprise you, but there's a significant number of French Jews here. You might want to read this:
http://www.israelforum.com/board/archive/index.php/t-5511.html
Quote:During last 12 months, 144,000 new babies were born in Israel and 21,000 new immigrants came. 11,000 of these from former USSR, 2,600 from Ethiopia, 1,800 from France, 1,600 from the United States and 1,200 from Argentina.
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:And how would Mr Sharon react if Mr Chirac suggested the Zionist experiment in Israel had basically failed, and that for the safety and protection of Jewish people, all Israelis of European origin were welcome back into the new expanded European Union?
I would suggest Mr Sharon would be pretty upset.
I wouldn't. There was a precedent when
an Australian minister reportedly (but I believe the reports were true) invited young Israelis to migrate to Australia.
I neither justify Sharon nor the questionable Israeli practice of recruiting cannon fodder by all means. However, I cannot accept this near-hysterical tone of someone who didn't really research the subject before making far-fetched claims.