The Slender Man Murder Case

Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 07:33 am
Both Girls Accused Of “Slender Man” Stabbing Will Be Tried As Adults
In March, their attorneys asked a judge to reconsider his decision to try them as adults. They were both 12 when they stabbed their friend 19 times.

So what do you think of this case? Of minors being charged as adults in violent crimes?
Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 09:34 am
What a book this will make. These two are definitely fucked in the heads
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Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 10:10 am
I have been following this case from the beginning. I don't agree with trying people so young as adults. Speaking as a non expert I do think they ought to be institutionalized for many years or even a lifetime.
Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 10:20 am
By way I think that somehow their victim survived the attack so it is not a murder case.
Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 10:57 am
BillRM wrote:

By way I think that somehow their victim survived the attack so it is not a murder case.

You're correct:
Anissa Weier is one of two girls charged with the attempted first-degree murder of a 12-year-old classmate.

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Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 09:59 pm
Bohren decided to keep the girls in adult court because he was worried the girls would not receive proper mental health treatment or supervision upon their release, according to reports. A longer sentence would “protect people longer,” he said.

There's a tradeoff, though: Adult prisons aren't designed with kids in mind.

In Wisconsin, youth in juvenile facilities have access to a wide array of resources and workshops. The Division of Juvenile Corrections of Wisconsin has offerings including dialectical behavior therapy, which helps juveniles learn mindfulness, distress tolerance and emotion regulation; education; family services, including bus services for families and therapy; a foster grandparent program as mentorship; a juvenile cognitive intervention program, focusing on cognitive restructuring in adolescents; and a victim impact program, which emphasizes the rights of victims and identifies the harmful effects of crime.

Adult facilities offer some overlapping resources, but are targeted at older populations. Most offerings are for technical education training. Treatment offerings are for things like anger management and cognitive intervention, but many of the violence programs cater only to men. Additionally, not all programs are available in all of the state’s 38 facilities. By contrast, there are two formal holding facilities in the state for juveniles, one for boys and another for girls, plus an alternative academy for boys. Almost all juvenile programs are offered at both the boys’ and girls’ facilities.

Holding youth in adult facilities isn’t a new practice, but it recently has been gaining more national attention.

Last month, HuffPost’s Dana Liebelson reported about the lives of youth in the adult prison system, some of whom had experienced abuse and almost all of whom had contemplated suicide. Staff in juvenile facilities are “more likely to be trained to deal with teens,” she wrote, and minors in adult prisons are more likely to attempt suicide than their counterparts in juvenile detention. And after they are released, those who serve in the adult system are “77 percent more likely to be arrested for a violent felony than those who were sent to juvenile institutions.”

Youth are also five times more likely to experience sexual assault in adult prisons versus juvenile facilities, according to the Equal Justice Initiative.

Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:48 am
The welfare of the two girls seems to me to be very secondary to the welfare and the safety of the general population.

Seem the best outcome, if it was possible in such cases, would be to locked them up for forever and a day as no matter what treatments they might received who could trust them not to do similar things when they are released?
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:55 am
No one who knows better asks me my opinion. Have a very 'Chinese' way of doing law. In this case, as their guilt doesn't seem to be inquestion, the only question is why they haven't been shot in the head yet.

I don't care how old they are and neither's their victim.
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