@wandeljw,
"What's the point of our staying awake half the night argueing about whether they may (or may not) be a god, if this computer only goes and gives you his phone number in the morning?" - "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
Fortunately for philosophers, nothing's simple in a universe comprised only of thought. Matter's an observation by minds with thoughts made up of electrical impulses. But since all matter no matter how dense is just empty space around a nucleus, but the nucleus itself is just smaller particles surrounded by empty space down infinitely, matter's just illusion. Along with everything made up of matter.
There's actually very convincing evidence the entire universe is a simulation just like computer virtual worlds made up of pixels. What's a pixel but a tiny dot. And what's all matter made up of but infinitely tiny dots...
