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Moses thought the world was at one time perfect. What happened?

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FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 07:08 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Many natural phenomena have been used...


Every argument from complexity that I've seen has been summarily shot down by either scientists or science-literate types. Do you know of one that has survived?

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And, you can see how my assertion about the sublime nature of scripture has been received in this thread.


Man has produced a lot of sublime works.

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One thing that remains, however, is the fulfillment of prophecy...


How does this avoid being the Gambler's Fallacy? Counting the few random hits and conveniently forgetting the much more numerous misses? I'd wager that just about any city you name will be a pile of rubble one day, given enough time.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 07:28 pm
@FBM,
Depends on whose point of view.
I'll leave it at that
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 07:30 pm
@neologist,
Okee-dokee. I reckon sans evidence, points of view are all we have.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 07:44 pm
@FBM,
One little bit of evidence for you.
You still misunderstand the meaning of evidence.
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 08:06 pm
@neologist,
Please explain.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 08:58 pm
@FBM,
Simple example.
You find a scratch on your car.
It's evidence.
But, evidence of what?
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 08:59 pm
@neologist,
It's evidence that something scratched my car. Could you explain the relevance of that example? You lost me there.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 09:00 pm
@FBM,
Good for you.
Was it that snotty neighbor kid?
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 09:02 pm
@neologist,
No idea. Could've been an inanimate object, for all I know.
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 09:06 pm
@FBM,
Are you saying that evidence, by itself, is inconclusive?
I rest my case.
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 09:09 pm
@neologist,
What's the hypothesis that you're trying to use it as evidence to support? Without a hypothesis, it's just a scratch on a car.
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CVeigh
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 11:30 am
@neologist,
Sorry, you don't even deserve a mudpie for those juvenile comments.

Your conclusion seems to be that God couldn't be perfect until He created something and proved it and His whole reason for creation was to do that. I'm sorry but that shows a real lack of consistency. SO what would perfection be? Your idea ? or God's idea ?
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MethSaferThanTHC
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jun, 2017 10:49 am
@neologist,
Moses had faith ahead of the people of his time.
Lol, moses frustrated at man; drops and breaks tablets....
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daverod
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 09:48 pm
@rosborne979,
If he was, who thought Moses up??
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Krumple
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 12:14 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Moses is generally thought to have written the first five books of the bible This is how he described God's work in Genesis:
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. . . behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:31)
A lot of bad stuff happened after that - very bad.

Yet, he continued to maintain God's work was perfect.
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He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.(Deuteronomy 32:4)
So, did Moses have it all 100% wrong? Or, is there another explanation that takes Moses' point of view into account as he continued his writing?

I've mended my kevlar helmet and I'm ready. So fire away.


Look at this from another perspective.

God is the evil mob boss. Write down somethin' he don't like an you might get wacked. Or he was kissing ass. This sort of thing occurs a lot. Like no one having an issue when god kills every first born male child in Egypt. And Job didn't have any issue when god tortured him to prove a point. Nope god isn't an asshole. He just sorta reads that way but if you get to know him your bias and fear will kick in and you'll see him in a whole new light.
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