Reply
Tue 29 Jun, 2004 02:54 pm
She's hot. If I was 14 I would bang her too!
the girl just wants to have fun
Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?
The funny thing, looking at the court papers, is that they call the boy the 'victim...'
by law, in most states, a 14 year old "victim" constitutes "statutory rape" with the addition of the perp being in a "position of authority"
dròm_et_rêve wrote:Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?
Yes.
Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?
still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...
He did have a few rounds or at least 2.
And I'm not sure that he called the cops.
Did anyone bother to read the details on the case?
If she did these things she did abuse her role of authority, with statutory rape. What a stupid woman, but past stupid, the alleged abuse is also using a child for a set of thrills.
O, I do agree with the sentence, everyone; I was just asking to see what you thought. Over here, the sentence would probably be commuted due to there being consent, if there were consent.
Hmm, I am not used to looking at affadavits, didn't notice there was a second page until Craven asked if we had bothered to look.
I suppose she could have been set up...
how does one prove something like this?
Region Philbis wrote:still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...
Couldn't agree more. I would loved to have sex with my ninth grade English teacher and would never have ruined it or her by shooting off my mouth. Don't these kids learn nuthin at the academy.
Craven de Kere wrote:dròm_et_rêve wrote:Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?
Yes.
Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?
I'd argue there is a difference.
There are laws to protect children. These are a necessity, in my view. Does anyone dispute this?
This teacher appears t have broken the law.
If she had any kind of sexual contact with him, that is the end of story re guilt.
The law takes the view that a person under the age of consent is unable to give informed consent - therefore, consent is of no moment in relation to whether or not a crime has been committed - although, in practice, at least here, if the participants are people are of similar age, there is considered to be no crime.
The teacher was nine yars older.
This teacher had a duty to the young man as an adult. As a teacher, even more so if she was HIS teacher, she had duty of care and special professional obligations over and above that of an ordinary adult.
She appears to have abused her position - which makes the offence even worse.
Obviously, had the sexual activity been coerced, that would add gravity to the offence.
CerealKiller wrote:Region Philbis wrote:still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...
Couldn't agree more. I would loved to have sex with my ninth grade English teacher and would never have ruined it or her by shooting off my mouth. Don't these kids learn nuthin at the academy.
And, despite your youthful fantasies, fortunately you appear to have had ethical, professional teachers, who allowed you to enjoy your age appropriate fantasies in safety.
An important thing for all fortunate adolescents.
IronLionZion wrote:Craven de Kere wrote:dròm_et_rêve wrote:Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?
Yes.
Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?
I'd argue there is a difference.
I would like to hear you make a reasonable case, ILZ.
Would you? That there's a difference between consensual and non-consensual, or between a male and a female offender, or both?
There might be a difference in the pressure exerted on the child; but, that is a matter of personality, rather than of sex. Perhaps things are different where you are, but here, consensual activity between fourteen-year-olds is rife. That is sex with minors; as is this case. Consent should never be a complete defence, I feel; but, in some cases, perhaps it should be taken into consideration. The day that rape becomes a completely subjective offence will be a day of grave injustice for victims. There needs to be minimum standards and liability in not adhering to them, in some cases; and, breaking one's obligations as a teacher and a carer, is almost as bad as the act that broke the obligations itself.
Sorry, Drom - I was talking to ILZ - challenging him re the "difference" thing.
I think I dealt with the "consensual" argument in my first post.
Did you see my first post here?
Actually, she seems to have been out "hunting" almost!!! What a sleaze!
Stumble It!
Tweet This
Bookmark on Delicious
Share on Facebook
Share on MySpace