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14 year old student bangs teacher, then calls the cops

 
 
Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 02:54 pm
What a moron !

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 04:18 pm
She's hot. If I was 14 I would bang her too!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 04:20 pm
the girl just wants to have fun
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 04:45 pm
Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?


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drom et reve
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 04:46 pm
The funny thing, looking at the court papers, is that they call the boy the 'victim...'


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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 04:49 pm
by law, in most states, a 14 year old "victim" constitutes "statutory rape" with the addition of the perp being in a "position of authority"
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:08 pm
dròm_et_rêve wrote:
Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?




Yes.

Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:11 pm
still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:19 pm
He did have a few rounds or at least 2.

And I'm not sure that he called the cops.

Did anyone bother to read the details on the case?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:19 pm
If she did these things she did abuse her role of authority, with statutory rape. What a stupid woman, but past stupid, the alleged abuse is also using a child for a set of thrills.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:29 pm
O, I do agree with the sentence, everyone; I was just asking to see what you thought. Over here, the sentence would probably be commuted due to there being consent, if there were consent.

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 05:33 pm
Hmm, I am not used to looking at affadavits, didn't notice there was a second page until Craven asked if we had bothered to look.

I suppose she could have been set up...
how does one prove something like this?
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2004 09:51 pm
Region Philbis wrote:
still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...


Couldn't agree more. I would loved to have sex with my ninth grade English teacher and would never have ruined it or her by shooting off my mouth. Don't these kids learn nuthin at the academy.
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:08 am
Craven de Kere wrote:
dròm_et_rêve wrote:
Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?




Yes.

Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?


I'd argue there is a difference.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:30 am
There are laws to protect children. These are a necessity, in my view. Does anyone dispute this?

This teacher appears t have broken the law.

If she had any kind of sexual contact with him, that is the end of story re guilt.

The law takes the view that a person under the age of consent is unable to give informed consent - therefore, consent is of no moment in relation to whether or not a crime has been committed - although, in practice, at least here, if the participants are people are of similar age, there is considered to be no crime.

The teacher was nine yars older.

This teacher had a duty to the young man as an adult. As a teacher, even more so if she was HIS teacher, she had duty of care and special professional obligations over and above that of an ordinary adult.

She appears to have abused her position - which makes the offence even worse.

Obviously, had the sexual activity been coerced, that would add gravity to the offence.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:33 am
CerealKiller wrote:
Region Philbis wrote:
still, what a dumba$S.
he prolly coulda had a few rounds with teach.
that's like dying and going to heaven for a 14 year old guy...


Couldn't agree more. I would loved to have sex with my ninth grade English teacher and would never have ruined it or her by shooting off my mouth. Don't these kids learn nuthin at the academy.


And, despite your youthful fantasies, fortunately you appear to have had ethical, professional teachers, who allowed you to enjoy your age appropriate fantasies in safety.

An important thing for all fortunate adolescents.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:34 am
IronLionZion wrote:
Craven de Kere wrote:
dròm_et_rêve wrote:
Should the teacher be treated thus, if the liaisons were consensual, do you think?




Yes.

Would you feel differently if it were a 14 year old girl and a male teacher?


I'd argue there is a difference.


I would like to hear you make a reasonable case, ILZ.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:38 am
Would you? That there's a difference between consensual and non-consensual, or between a male and a female offender, or both?

There might be a difference in the pressure exerted on the child; but, that is a matter of personality, rather than of sex. Perhaps things are different where you are, but here, consensual activity between fourteen-year-olds is rife. That is sex with minors; as is this case. Consent should never be a complete defence, I feel; but, in some cases, perhaps it should be taken into consideration. The day that rape becomes a completely subjective offence will be a day of grave injustice for victims. There needs to be minimum standards and liability in not adhering to them, in some cases; and, breaking one's obligations as a teacher and a carer, is almost as bad as the act that broke the obligations itself.

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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:41 am
Sorry, Drom - I was talking to ILZ - challenging him re the "difference" thing.

I think I dealt with the "consensual" argument in my first post.

Did you see my first post here?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 01:45 am
Actually, she seems to have been out "hunting" almost!!! What a sleaze!
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