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The weirdly shaped rock - PICTURES.

 
 
Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 10:19 am
Hello!

Today, while working in garden I came across something unusual, a small cylindrical shaped rock, to me it seemed unusal, but Im not able to distinguish either if it's naturally shaped like that, or is it something more than that.
Dimensions of cylindrical shaped rock are - 3,2 cm in length, and 1,5 cm in diameter, it has unusual, like two xx on one side of it. (I have attached pictures).

The pictures :
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/2_zpsyjraiau5.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/3_zpspqeilo3t.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/IMG_6627_zpst97ihdyv.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/1_zpsqo5sphxz.jpg

Any help with it, would be much appriciated.

Thanks in advance, and greetings from Latvia.

 
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 11:30 am
@cherrieberrie,
Cher, to me, for what it's worth, not a lot, it looks granitic. Suspect the stripes water-surface deposit
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 05:22 pm
@cherrieberrie,
Its man made alright. we have these things called Manos and metate which are mortars and pestles usd by the ancients. You may hve what could be a neolithic artifct. IS there a university with an archaeology department near to you? Id take some pictures of the site (wide angle and close up with a little red fag (or any bright colr) right where you found this thing and take the artifact and the pictures to the department nd see whether you can get any ideas or even help.
Over here in US e hve many laws governing disturbnce of artifcts, Im sure EU hs something similr
cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 07:07 am
@farmerman,
I'm greatly thankful for Your reply, farmerman. I was also considering this piece to be some sort of ancient pestle, but what concerned me was the size. Usually, the pestles and mortarts are quite bigger in size. It's something that You can hold in your palm with a good grip. But, if this is some sort of miniature version of it, then yeah, why not. Would You say, You have any idea of how old it might be?

p.s. adding more pictures

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/IMG_6788_zpsaw9hvvft.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/IMG_6789_zps2fymezg2.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/IMG_6790_zpsguna2il8.jpg
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 07:40 am
@cherrieberrie,
Is that some bllack powdery stuff on the rounded "top"?

Im no expert in artifacts but could it be for "mulling" or mixing very fine powders or small amounts of flavorings?

The stone appears to be a rhyolite which is dense enough for that kind of use.
cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 10:07 am
@farmerman,
Unfortunately, I did not see any black powder on the top of the rock. Another version, I consider, maybe this would have been a cork for a bottle?
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll185/Cherry_Ace/IMG_6793_zpsfvfu1xsh.jpg
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 10:51 am
@cherrieberrie,
Cherrie I've seen such patterns, they're natural (at least the black ones toward the "bottom". Probably deposits of carbon or some other black substance following cracks

Gotta admit tho, the white ones give one pause
cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 11:39 am
@dalehileman,
Could You please explain what do You think about the white patterns? What would they mean?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 01:56 pm
@cherrieberrie,
cherrieberrie wrote:
Unfortunately, I did not see any black powder on the top of the rock. Another version, I consider, maybe this would have been a cork for a bottle?

I agree it's a bit too small for it likely to be a pestle (which is what it looked like without the size perspective). Bottle cork is another good guess. How about a playing piece for a game of some type? Maybe a pawn for a very old form of chess or something?
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 03:57 pm
@cherrieberrie,
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what do You think about the white patterns?
Sure do look man-made, don't they Cher
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2015 04:04 pm
@dalehileman,
they look like those celtic knots we see in jewelry.

I like the game piece idea.
cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2015 12:28 am
@dalehileman,
I am really no expert in these kinds of things, so I can't tell for sure. But I believe and appreciate Your expertise . Would You say that those kinds of white patterns that we see in this piece are not usual in common stones? And what would be your guess about why does this piece have them?
cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2015 12:36 am
@farmerman,
I looked up some ancient game/chess pieces in google search and found these : https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/77/81/5e/77815e4752ac41a261aaa5fdad9b1908.jpg

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/medieval/sandomierz-03.jpg

http://history.chess.free.fr/images/medieval/Florence-Pawn-01-r.jpg

I have to say, the shapes and sizes look very similar. It could be a chess pawn indeed.

Farmerman, which parts of the piece remind You of celtic knots?
Do You mean those two X's ?
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cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2015 01:53 am
Also looked up some meanings to the double X...Found this : "X signifies betrayal as to cross someone - XX = double cross".
Could maybe another version for this piece be some sort of prediction, divination stone ?
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cherrieberrie
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2015 02:00 am
"In the old Semitic languages, X represented the cross

Code 33 (Z=1, Y=2, X=3 ) - a reference to Freemasonry and ritual sodomy.

The appearance of any double X form in an Occult context may be a secretive embedding of the square and compass of Freemasonry, marking their territory and performing symbol magic.

Within the double X two very important symbol letters appear, the W and X. The W is above, the M below. They are mirrored, as above, so below."

I think Latvians did practice a lot of occultism, pagan rituals in their past. Or maybe I'm digging too deep? Very Happy
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2015 02:13 pm
@cherrieberrie,
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I am really no expert in these kinds of things,
Probably moreso than I

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so I can't tell for sure. But I believe and appreciate Your expertise .
Am flattered

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Would You say ....white patterns.... not usual in common stones?
As a former rockhound I'd say yes, such shapes common only when so marked by the humanoid

But Cher I'm no expert by any means. Think black stripes and black stars atop as natural
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