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Is creating false guilt for profit by religions a good moral tenet?

 
 
Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 11:19 am
Is creating false guilt for profit by religions a good moral tenet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

One of the lies for profit by the Churches seems to be the invention of hell to instill fear and loosen the purse strings and increase the indulgences people pay to save their souls, which were never condemned in the first place.

Another example of this for profit lying by Christianity would be Original Sin. This was something unknown to the Jews who have a different interpretation of their myths. To them, Eden was where we were elevated, not where we fell.

Is creating false guilt for profit a good moral tenet and should a religion that does so be followed?

Or would God forbid such a sin and curse those religions to hell?

Regards
DL
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Patches
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 03:13 pm
@Greatest I am,
I have seen evil spirits who were without God in the afterlife and bear witness to the reality of hell.
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sun 19 Apr, 2015 02:13 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I have seen evil spirits who were without God in the afterlife and bear witness to the reality of hell.


If you can't see God in all, you can't see God at all.
-Anon

You restrict your God. All that is is where God is.

Repent sinner.

Regards
DL

Patches
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2015 07:14 am
@Greatest I am,
I never said that I couldn't see God in all. I was merely bearing witness and giving testimony as others have done before me. There is no sin in speaking the truth.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2015 04:45 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:
I have seen evil spirits who were without God in the afterlife and bear witness to the reality of hell.
I don't doubt your visions. I doubt your conclusions.
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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2015 04:50 pm
@Greatest I am,
Greatest I am wrote:
To them, Eden was where we were elevated, not where we fell.
Then, why were they expelled from Eden? And why the need for sacrifice?

You are quite correct about priestly lies, however.
Trinity
Hellfire
Immortal soul
Reprobation, etc.
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 05:17 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I never said that I couldn't see God in all. I was merely bearing witness and giving testimony as others have done before me. There is no sin in speaking the truth.


"I have seen evil spirits who were without God in the afterlife and bear witness to the reality of hell."

You are a liar like your God Yahweh.

Regards
DL
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Greatest I am
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 05:24 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Greatest I am wrote:
To them, Eden was where we were elevated, not where we fell.
Then, why were they expelled from Eden? And why the need for sacrifice?

You are quite correct about priestly lies, however.
Trinity
Hellfire
Immortal soul
Reprobation, etc.


To Jews, and Gnostic Christians like me, there was no original sin and thus no need for a barbaric human sacrifice.

A & E were not expelled from Eden so much as they graduated and were now ready to join the greater working world and also ready to reproduce.

You might have noted they could not reproduce till after the so called fall.

If they had not eaten of the tree of knowledge, they would still not recognize that they are naked and they would still have their eyes closed to reality.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/20/comparative-theodicy/

You should recognize that Christianity screwed things up royally when they stupidly decided to become literalists of the 4 main gospels. That was when they helped usher in the Dark Ages and Inquisition.

This first link is historic and the rest shows how I try to think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized to activate your higher mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human and a brethren to Jesus.

Regards
DL


Regards
DL
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2015 06:02 pm
@Greatest I am,
But of course. The payoff for Adam and Eve, such as it was, was for them to be like God and set their own standards.

If that's what you want, you got it!
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Tue 19 May, 2015 10:42 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

But of course. The payoff for Adam and Eve, such as it was, was for them to be like God and set their own standards.

If that's what you want, you got it!


Look up Freud's Father Complex.

If you do not want to set the rules then you are not following your instincts to be the fittest.

To a normal instinct, that would make you defective or not the fittest automatically.

That is a part of the bible's lie of the weak inheriting the earth. That concept was likely thought up to appease those like you who were defective and did not seek God but settled for the Gods of others.

Regards
DL
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Greatest I am
 
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Reply Tue 19 May, 2015 10:46 am
neo

I forgot your question as to why we need a savior.

We do not. This is a Jewish myth we are talking about and they do not have an original sin concept thus have no need for a savior.

The Jewish messiah was to live and rule. Not die and go away.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/20/comparative-theodicy/

Regards
DL
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 19 May, 2015 11:07 am
@Greatest I am,
Genesis 3:15 predicts the role of Jesus and the one posing as serpent.
The Jews had only a partial understanding.
But the prophecy of Daniel's 70 weeks should have made it clear to those who wished to understand.
GorDie
 
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Reply Fri 26 Jun, 2015 06:55 pm
@Greatest I am,
UM.. obviously


not.

XD
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Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2015 11:02 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Genesis 3:15 predicts the role of Jesus and the one posing as serpent.
The Jews had only a partial understanding.
But the prophecy of Daniel's 70 weeks should have made it clear to those who wished to understand.


Hogwash.

Regards
DL
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