twyvel wrote:
"Any assertion of perfection (accept on the conceptual level) is an assertion of perfection"
Now there's a redundancy.
Indeed. I'm not sure what I meant to have typed in place of the second "perfection" but it was probably just a wordy way to reference another adjective we use without the pure conceptual meaning but merely to describe a acceptable threshold.
For practical purposes we merely use an acceptable threshold for "perfect" and for practical purposes we use a threshold at which we start calling beliefs truisms and facts.
Again I'll refer to someone else who I think has said it well, for edification as to this pretty unspectacular position:
jnhofzinser wrote: I think that everything we hold is a belief ("it is all white") -- but we can (at least pretend that we can) construct an agreed-upon "threshold" of foundation by which we can refer to things as "facts".
Quote:Quote: Code:while (twyvel wants to repeat the question) {
echo $theanswertwyvelalreadyreceived;
}
That way, it can be done as many times as you would like while at the same time freeing me up for more worthwhile pursuits. A win-win situation if there ever were one
Pure arrogance and mockery.
You are a very serious lady. I thought it playful but your scowl and glare has made me think otherwise.
Quote:My comment, "If everything is white there is no white."
.was meant metaphorically, and as such is not false.
Ok
Quote:And I don't really want to argue the metaphor as you are doing.
You might have missed my last post when I said I did not wish to argue about your metaphor. It might make you start scowling and doing that "arrogance!" thing.
Quote:Quote:Let's just pretend you got it right because I don't want to waste a lot of time on circle thoughts right now. I'll also go ahead and get to the point you are trying unsucessfully to get to and answer your questions:
More arrogance.
No, just impatience and not wanting to waste any more time arguing a metaphor.
Quote:Yes, I know all that ****. You're missing the point.
Well twyvel, if repetition is any indicator I might be inclined to think the single solitary word "arrogance" is the extent of your point.
Quote:Quote: See jnhofzinser's post on this thread if you would like more edification in that regard.
This isn't edification, it's transparent, condescending arrogance.
I actually thought jnhofzinser's post was edifying.
But yeah yeah.... "arrogance!" "arrogance!"
Quote:[This isn't a comment about jnhofzinser's post]
I'm starting to suspect you just
might believe I'm arrogant. I'm picking up a vibe like that from you.
If that's the gist of what you are trying to say I am inclined to agree with you. But ironically, given the beginning, the redundancy and near exclusivity of expression that this observation can claim in your post certainly has made it a bit boring.
Quote:Quote:Oh yes. And furthermore questions I am inclined to leave for others to spend time on.
Oh no.
More arrogance.
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Perhaps, but maybe it was also a bit of common sense in not wanting to get into yet another protracted debate with twyvel on a really simple concept where it goes around and around without you getting to any real point and involves silliness on each of our parts.
Sometimes I really enjoy debates, but they usually have less in way of one-word responses, such contention over a very unspectacular position (it's usually at least about politics, not nit-picking over my definition of a word), and sternness.
Perhaps arrogant yes, but I won't let that get in the way of what my common sense is telling me. Which is simply that a point hasn't emerged long past the threshold at which the conversation ceased to be worthwhile. It's now abrasive and that I should indeed allow others to address any desire you might have to discuss this topic.
jnhofzinser expressed a similar position you know.
Sorry jnhofzinser.
