Whatever happened to the water-fueled engine?

anakpawis wrote:

Why do you hate me so much? The greatest evidence I can show you is to do the experiment yourself. Stop yacking like a baby waiting to be spoonfed.

If you watch all those videos that are linked here, the experts appearing on the video have their names in there. They are credentialed physicist, scientist, and engineers. Now don't stop at believing what you see in the video. Research more about these people and their work. Research on the subject they're talking about. Try out some experiment yourself.

I do not mean to insult your intelligence. But if you still don't get this, I think you're a hopeless case. Let me just get this new idea across others. So stop being a jerk and stop blocking my way and get lost.

Surely somebody, somewhere has a set of plans for one of these devices.

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If such an engine existed you know someone like China would produce it, oil company or no oil company.

The idea they exist is nonsense.

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What makes my hoax detector start ringing when I read about their project is their description of the onboard water-to-hydrogen conversion process. From what I understand, it takes quite a bit of energy to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen. This has always been one of the major stumbling blocks on the road to a hydrogen economy (the cost of producing hydrogen). But Earth2012 says that it has developed a 'revolutionary way of creating hydrogen from water.' This involves vibrating the water at exactly the correct frequency, thereby causing the water to easily separate into oxygen and hydrogen.

Maybe Earth2012 really has developed this revolutionary new process, though the details they provide about it are awfully sketchy. But it all sounds an awful lot like a water-as-fuel hoax, of which there have been many in the past... one of the weirdest being Guido Franch's claims back in the 70s that he had developed a cheap green powder that, when added to water, transformed the water into gasoline. Franch gave a few demonstrations of his powder, though never under scientifically controlled conditions, and his credibility took a bit of a blow when he confessed that the secret of the powder had been given to him by a group of spacemen from the planet Neptune. The Straight Dope has an article about Franch if you're interested in reading more about him.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/1209/P20/

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Water fuelled cars have been mentioned in urban legends since the 1930s. The story is usually that a lone inventor invents an engine that runs on water but the idea is suppressed by either Big Oil or automakers in order to safeguard their profits. Claims for water fuelled power sources are often used to fraudulently extract money from gullible investors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

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Seriously... vibrations??? Any idiot with some understanding of thermochemistry knows that vibrations and heat and light and radiation are all different forms of the exact same thing - raw energy (enthalpy). Vibrating something apart would actually be far LESS EFFICIENT than direct heating because you are losing more energy to sound as well.

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As I was saying water powered engines is a hoax that's been around for a long time. All kinds of weird ideas about how to seperate hydrogen from oxygen are purposed.

What funny is there are people today who still believe in them.

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Gentlemen,

Please accept my apologies. I do not mean to insult anyone. There are other things we should stay focus about.

As you may observed, valuable links inserted in this thread has been deleted. Suppression of the truth is very real. A very powerful group controls our society.

Don't stop studying on your own.

Peace.

Knowledge is power

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Not that I am any sort of conspiracy nut - I generally laugh at them... it does seem that a few posts have been removed. I seem to remember posting earlier this morning and now it is gone. More likely a database error than some suppressive legion of oil producers. Especially considering the fact that everything posted in favor of the water fueled engine was complete bullsh!t.

Anakpawis: I keep seeing your tag line of "knowledge is power." So, why don't you go learn and read a bit more? it's painfully obviously you don't understand a lot about what you speak.

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When asked, what is the most powerful force in the Universe, Einstein said,"Compound Interest"

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@anakpawis,

I wish to communicate with you in private. I am new to the forum and cannot message you in private yet. Maybe you could message me in private and give me your email address so i can be in touch with you. I'm interested in speaking to someone who claims to have actually made a working joe cell or any other alternative electrolysis method.

Best regards!

Smile

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Well tell me this then
Why can I purchase a HHO machine right now for my shop which run on water. The gas can be used to run a common combustion egine just like propane? It is available on the market right now

go to http://www.hytechapps.com/ watch the marketing Vid at the bottom

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Re: Well tell me this then

Winsblow wrote:

Why can I purchase a HHO machine right now for my shop which run on water.

From their website:

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The H2O 1500 Aquygen Gas Generator runs on water and electricity only!

Seems you have missed something.

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Re: Well tell me this then

old europe wrote:

Winsblow wrote:
Why can I purchase a HHO machine right now for my shop which run on water.

From their website:

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The H2O 1500 Aquygen Gas Generator runs on water and electricity only!

Seems you have missed something.

lol. see, the best part about all of this debate is that the people who think this thing is possibly only think so because they are seriously uneducated in science. they are saying "well this company makes it and says it works, it must be so!"

i seem to remember a company making a bunch of crappy magnetic bracelets which were supposed to cure cancer and everything else. riiiiight.

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whatever happened to the water-fueled engine?
Oh dear you are such a clown. When challenged on your half-baked views, you refer to a grainy clip on Youtube to support your scientific credentials. Don't you understand that bored people spread nonsense like this all over the Internet because people like you want to believe it's true, because that in turn makes your world a more interesting place? I'd love it if aliens did visit gas station owners in the Mid-West because it would be exciting. But I have to accept that they don't because I'm not a fantasist. I'd love it if 9/11 had been a CIA-Bush conspiracy because then I wouldn't have to be worried about any further terrorist attacks. And I'd really love it if I didn't have to spend half my money on gasoline knowing all the while that it's not going to last for ever. But I think it's more responsible to accept reality and try to look for plausible solutions rather than fantasise about unscientific mumbo-jumbo, refuse to acknowledge the validity of any counter-argument, and claim that anybody who doesn't agree with me is a dumb cynic deliberately hindering the progress of the world. To listen to you on the back foot countering well-explained scientific fact with puerile comebacks along the lines of 'Yeah well you're just too stupid to understand it' is embarrassing. You need to understand that the people who peddle this claptrap have just as much reason to lie to you as the oil companies and governments you so distrust. It's rubbish like this that wastes everybody's time and truly hinders progress.
What do you think all the top scientists are doing whilst some loser is rigging up a hoax for his mate to film and put on the Internet? Do you think they've all been paid off by the oil companies to keep this monumental breakthrough quiet? Or are they also too 'dumb' to understand your alchemy? Please, grow up. The world can't always be as mysterious and wonderful as you'd like it to be.

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lots of engines are water cooled whats your problem?

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Water Power
Free energy? Maybe, but I would pay the same amount to run Hydrogen instead of gasoline, and I think a lot of people would. The oil companies will simply move their focus to another profitable place, like Hydrogen unless someone builds a usable prototype and will really share the knowledge. I am fascinated by the works of Stan Meyer and others, but I don't know of a single place where I can go to see this in action. I am planning to build a system because I like creative fabrication. There is a wave of very smart people working on this and sharing ideas, and if it's there, it will be found. The naysayers are excellent at working inside the box, but the best solutions have come from those who thought outside the box.

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You can think "outside the box" all you want, but you can't change the properties of the universe.

And logically, it doesn't even make sense. If a car runs on water and produces only water, then it runs on NOTHING. Why bother putting water into the tank? Let it run off the moisture in the air. If there isn't enough, put a gallon into the tank and then pipe the "exhaust" into the gas tank. Voila! Perpetual motion machine.

Complete crap.

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water power has been used to drive machines for hundreds of years. Overshot, undershot, turbines. But if you are talking about the internal combustion engine...oh dear you know nothing. Try setting water alight.

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Is the energy expended by the earth perpetual?
Is the energy expended by the sun perpetual?
Is the energy expended by the planets rotating to our solar system perpetual?
Is the energy in the universe perpetual?

The example about the car running on water and collecting it again and use it again and blah..and blah...is nothing?? Perpetual motion???

If you are right, God is too stupid to make the Earth rotate, evaporate water into atmosphere, sends it back to earth and let it evaporate again...

Dear Lord, just to let you know there is no such thing as perpetual motion so stop and freeze everything.

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anakpawis wrote:

Is the energy expended by the earth perpetual?
Is the energy expended by the sun perpetual?
Is the energy expended by the planets rotating to our solar system perpetual?
Is the energy in the universe perpetual?

The example about the car running on water and collecting it again and use it again and blah..and blah...is nothing?? Perpetual motion???

If you are right, God is too stupid to make the Earth rotate, evaporate water into atmosphere, sends it back to earth and let it evaporate again...

Dear Lord, just to let you know there is no such thing as perpetual motion so stop and freeze everything.

Once again... you show just how ignorant of science you are. There is NO perpetual energy. In space there is nearly 0 resistance, the same does not apply here on earth... and by the way, genius, the light produced by the sun is the result of a nuclear chain reaction taking place on the surface. it uses fuel and will eventually run out just like the many other red and blue giants, dwarfs and neutron stars. you seriously need to go back to school.

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steve

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water power has been used to drive machines for hundreds of years. Overshot, undershot, turbines

. I cant think of one overshot or undershot wheel that actually drives awayfrom the mill.
Also, the bearings are usually lignum vitae, I dont think that EPA'd certify that feature.

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farmerman wrote:

steve
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water power has been used to drive machines for hundreds of years. Overshot, undershot, turbines
. I cant think of one overshot or undershot wheel that actually drives awayfrom the mill.

only if it jumped out of its bearings and went down stream.

Of course a water wheel is not really water powered. Its sun powered. (As are modern vehicles which use fossil fuels.)

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Whatever happened to the water-fueled engine?

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