Whatever happened to the water-fueled engine?

USAFHokie80 wrote:

Once again... you show just how ignorant of science you are. There is NO perpetual energy. In space there is nearly 0 resistance, the same does not apply here on earth... and by the way, genius, the light produced by the sun is the result of a nuclear chain reaction taking place on the surface. it uses fuel and will eventually run out just like the many other red and blue giants, dwarfs and neutron stars. you seriously need to go back to school.

And yes I did. I went back to school and teach myself . I'm doing research and experiment based on the studies and discoveries of many intelligent people around the world.

For example, your understanding of the sun is all bullshit. Watch the google video documentary "Thunderbolts of the Gods" , here's a link
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&q=electromagnetic+universe&hl=en

The school system we can't trust anymore. Everything being fed to our mind is bullshit. Energy is everywhere in the universe. We can tap this power anywhere.

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anakpawis wrote:

The school system we can't trust anymore. Everything being fed to our mind is bullshit. Energy is everywhere in the universe. We can tap this power anywhere.

Oh god

Here we go again... years of scientific research can't be trusted but Fox News runs one story about some magic water machine (that uses AC current from a wall outlet, mind you) and suddenly we can mysteriously tap into it anywhere?????

YES, energy is everywhere, but to USE it, we have to CHANGE ITS STATE. Changing states of energy ALWAYS loses a measurable amount to other states. If it didn't, we would have perpetual motion. You can't plug your computer into air and start sending emails, you have to FIND the energy, tap into it and USE it which changes its state. We don't sit around a camp log, we sit around a camp FIRE. We change the state of stored energy in the log into heat, light, and sound for us to enjoy.

Does your computer make heat? Does your car? If you can find a way to use energy without changing its state in some way or another, you've perfected perpetual motion and you are God.

If you start saying we can rip a hole in the space-time continuum by simulating a photon blast from the main deflector dish, I'm calling the sanitarium and having you put in a straight jacket.

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curtis73 wrote:

anakpawis wrote:

The school system we can't trust anymore. Everything being fed to our mind is bullshit. Energy is everywhere in the universe. We can tap this power anywhere.

Oh god
Here we go again... years of scientific research can't be trusted but Fox News runs one story about some magic water machine (that uses AC current from a wall outlet, mind you) and suddenly we can mysteriously tap into it anywhere?????

YES, energy is everywhere, but to USE it, we have to CHANGE ITS STATE. Changing states of energy ALWAYS loses a measurable amount to other states. If it didn't, we would have perpetual motion. You can't plug your computer into air and start sending emails, you have to FIND the energy, tap into it and USE it which changes its state. We don't sit around a camp log, we sit around a camp FIRE. We change the state of stored energy in the log into heat, light, and sound for us to enjoy.

Does your computer make heat? Does your car? If you can find a way to use energy without changing its state in some way or another, you've perfected perpetual motion and you are God.

If you start saying we can rip a hole in the space-time continuum by simulating a photon blast from the main deflector dish, I'm calling the sanitarium and having you put in a straight jacket.

Please have some compassion to the free thinkers. Imagine the world if guys like you dominates the world? Let the young minds wonder and not be guided to the pit of despair that you find yourself into. If you find yourself trap in a cave with your children and know that the only way out to freedom is blocked, and your children believes it is not the only way to freedom, why stop them and chastised them?

I believe in God with all my heart and few years ago I was like you. I can't believe God created a universe with limitations. But my eyes is opened now and realized the amazing work in the universe.

Now let me convince you and the others. As you admitted yourself there is energy everywhere. The continuous supply of energy from the sun and the stars electromagnetic particles will seem perpetual energy to our mortal selves. These energy can be harness and had been harnessed by numerous scientist and inventors.

"Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on Radiant Energy. This natural energy form can be gathered directly from the environment (mistakenly called "static" electricity) or extracted from ordinary electricity by the method called "fractionation." Radiant Energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1% of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it. The Methernitha Community in Switzerland currently has 5 or 6 working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy. "http://www.free-energy.ws/background.html

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I just hope someday you'll read that post of yours and laugh too.

It is indeed important to keep an open mind. But not so open that your brains fall out.

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lol...

I hope to read this again when I passed away and drinking coffee with Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton, and Tesla.

We will all laugh about all our experiences with dim witted people in our time..

lol Laughing

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anakpawis wrote:

USAFHokie80 wrote:

Once again... you show just how ignorant of science you are. There is NO perpetual energy. In space there is nearly 0 resistance, the same does not apply here on earth... and by the way, genius, the light produced by the sun is the result of a nuclear chain reaction taking place on the surface. it uses fuel and will eventually run out just like the many other red and blue giants, dwarfs and neutron stars. you seriously need to go back to school.

And yes I did. I went back to school and teach myself . I'm doing research and experiment based on the studies and discoveries of many intelligent people around the world.

For example, your understanding of the sun is all bullshit. Watch the google video documentary "Thunderbolts of the Gods" , here's a link
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&q=electromagnetic+universe&hl=en

The school system we can't trust anymore. Everything being fed to our mind is bullshit. Energy is everywhere in the universe. We can tap this power anywhere.

Every time you try to say I'm wrong, you post either a google or youtube video. And my understanding of the sun, is right on the money. I can't believe you even made reference that you are in league with the likes of Einstein and Tesla when every single one of their theories and discoveries directly refutes these ridiculous claims you make.

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anakpawis wrote:

Please have some compassion to the free thinkers. Imagine the world if guys like you dominates the world? Let the young minds wonder and not be guided to the pit of despair that you find yourself into. If you find yourself trap in a cave with your children and know that the only way out to freedom is blocked, and your children believes it is not the only way to freedom, why stop them and chastised them?

I believe in God with all my heart and few years ago I was like you. I can't believe God created a universe with limitations. But my eyes is opened now and realized the amazing work in the universe.

Now let me convince you and the others. As you admitted yourself there is energy everywhere. The continuous supply of energy from the sun and the stars electromagnetic particles will seem perpetual energy to our mortal selves. These energy can be harness and had been harnessed by numerous scientist and inventors.

"Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on Radiant Energy. This natural energy form can be gathered directly from the environment (mistakenly called "static" electricity) or extracted from ordinary electricity by the method called "fractionation." Radiant Energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity, at less than 1% of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it. The Methernitha Community in Switzerland currently has 5 or 6 working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy. "http://www.free-energy.ws/background.html

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I don't really have anything to say to this. I just wanted to repost it so we could all laugh again.

You really want to get into this? You want free thinking? I'm 34, a libertarian, and a natural psychic. I speak to dead people. You speak of this whispy free energy that comes from hugging trees and screwing dolphins and my dead grandfather standing beside me laughs too. (no, really, he just laughed) I know more energy than you can possibly fathom, and if you believe that the bogus BS put forth by some of the references you cite, then your grasp of what GOD is could be measured with a pubic hair.

Start small. Read "Conversations with God" be Neale Donald Walsh. That will start you on the right path to understanding the energy that surrounds us regardless of his remedial conclusions on some things. Then (once you've read the half-dozen books in that series) step up to "The Wheel of Rebirth." Then read "Autobiography of a Yogi." If you're still able to grasp any of it, you're about 1/100,000 of the way to understanding what GOD truly is.

You have to understand that GOD made the absolute, the relative, and the abstract. In NONE of those realms of human capacity is energy free and magical. GOD created those realms from himself, and once we realize that WE are GOD in the conglomerate, then we can begin to understand the control we have over that energy... CONTROL, not the power to create and destroy. The energy is THERE, but all we can do is control it, not magically create it. This was Dezmond's argument in "The Maker's Mark." By examining the perfunctory nature of energy as we can comprehend it, we only harness energy as far as human minds can understand it. Therefore, humans are NOT God as long as they do not believe it.

If you think that you can magically conjure energy within the elemental confines of your human skill, then congratulations; not only have you accepted that you are a fragment of GOD, you have extrinsically determined that you are GOD's GOD. That's pretty lofty. Possible, but doubtful.

So... for the next multiple billions of years until humans figure out what they are, we'll have to continue to harness energy and use it as it is given to us. Given the fact that we're still dragging carbon from the bowels of the earth and spewing it into the atmosphere, I think we have a while to go.

But that's just what my dead ancestors tell me.

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You can get more energy out of water
I thought Stanley Meyers sort of proved Zero Point Energy Exists. Didnt he find out a way to get more energy out of water, creating hydrogen than he put in. In science we still do not know if are laws are even correct. There has been no unification of laws yet. So, theoretically you can violate the law of conservation, by means of zero point energy

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Relative Wrote

One thing is certain:

- NO one has been able to show how to get energy from H2O (aside from nuclear fusion).

- Theoretically, you can't have any of 'runs on nothing' engines since it violates law of conservation of energy

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Re: You can get more energy out of water

durz wrote:

I thought Stanley Meyers sort of proved Zero Point Energy Exists. Didnt he find out a way to get more energy out of water, creating hydrogen than he put in. In science we still do not know if are laws are even correct. There has been no unification of laws yet. So, theoretically you can violate the law of conservation, by means of zero point energy

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Relative Wrote

One thing is certain:

- NO one has been able to show how to get energy from H2O (aside from nuclear fusion).

- Theoretically, you can't have any of 'runs on nothing' engines since it violates law of conservation of energy

Finally, some smart people in the forum. Stanley Mayer's invention is correct. Look into thermochemical equation of hydrogen + oxygen and Gibb's free energy. This is a fact being studied in colleges and universities except those ones that curtis73 and USAFHokie80 went to. Talking to my dead ancestors is beyond the science I know.

Oh, by the way I'm not putting myself in the league with the likes of Einstein. Einstein is just a puppet genius dress up by the powerful bankers to hide the fact that there is energy in aether.

Here's more for USAFHokie80:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/electrol.html#c1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8660594257433316464

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anakpawis, did you actually read those links? The first link shows exactly what we've been telling you, and presumably exactly the opposite of what you think. Read through it... the last paragraph shows that the energy produced is the same amount as the energy consumed. Way to go genius.

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Stan Meyer:

In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. According to The Times, Meyer claimed in court that his invention "opened the way for a car which would 'run on water', powered simply by a car battery." The car would even run perpetually without fuel since the energy needed to continue the "fracturing" was low enough for the engine's dynamo to recharge the car's battery. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed. The Water Fuel Cell, on the other hand, was examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis".

On the basis of the evidence the court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay the investors their $25,000.

(Edwards, Tony. "End of road for car that ran on Water", The Sunday Times, Times Newspapers Limited, 1996-12-01, p. Features 12. Retrieved on 2007-05-16. )

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Anakpawis...I dont know what hallucinogenic drugs you take but leave them alone. For my sake.

Don't give us bullshit about perpetual motion machines or internal combustion engines that run on water.

You're either a fraud or a nut.

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Steve 41oo wrote:

Anakpawis...I dont know what hallucinogenic drugs you take but leave them alone. For my sake.

Don't give us bullshit about perpetual motion machines or internal combustion engines that run on water.

You're either a fraud or a nut.

He could be both.

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I'm annoyed because I actually waste time replying to the likes of anapawkins or whatever she calls herself.

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Steve 41oo wrote:

I'm annoyed because I actually waste time replying to the likes of anapawkins or whatever she calls herself.

Oh stop flattering me..lol Laughing

You're making me feel like Galileo and you the Inquisition.

About Stanley Meyer, what do you expect from big bankers and the government but to discredit him. But that "gross and egregious fraud" allegations can not stop the truth. They have to resort to POISON. He was murdered.

http://www.dispatch.com/dispatch/content/local_news/stories/extras/0707/hydro.html

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USAFHokie80 wrote:

anakpawis, did you actually read those links? The first link shows exactly what we've been telling you, and presumably exactly the opposite of what you think. Read through it... the last paragraph shows that the energy produced is the same amount as the energy consumed. Way to go genius.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/electrol.html#c1

Newton's conservation of energy is correct. That equation is correct. And that is what I mean. The free energy is coming from outside the system and this is why Stanley Meyers watercar works. Think about hydrogen and oxygen burning as an open system. Conservation of energy applies for a close system.

Oh by the way, why does Steve 41oo hates me so much. I didn't know you are too sensitive. Do you need a shoulder to cry on? Do you want your mommy?

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anakpawis wrote:

USAFHokie80 wrote:
anakpawis, did you actually read those links? The first link shows exactly what we've been telling you, and presumably exactly the opposite of what you think. Read through it... the last paragraph shows that the energy produced is the same amount as the energy consumed. Way to go genius.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/electrol.html#c1

Newton's conservation of energy is correct. That equation is correct. And that is what I mean. The free energy is coming from outside the system and this is why Stanley Meyers watercar works. Think about hydrogen and oxygen burning as an open system. Conservation of energy applies for a close system.

Oh by the way, why does Steve 41oo hates me so much. I didn't know you are too sensitive. Do you need a shoulder to cry on? Do you want your mommy?

See, I think you just misunderstand this on a very simple level. There is no "closed system." The "free energy" is gleaned from the ambient temperature, as described in the equation. There is also energy LOST to the environment as well. It all evens out. You are focusing on what you *think* is the closed system - but you are wrong about that. The "system" by definition is the environment that contributes or contains the reaction.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3010276884729911868&q=gibb%27s+free+energy&total=10&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Here's more to this entrophy and enthalpy stuff.

Laughing

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I dont hate you anapawkins I just think you're an idiot.

I reserve my ire for the silly ideas that gullible people like you take on board.

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A wise man once said, " You are more of an idiot if you are arguing with an idiot."

I'm here discussing this idea in this forum because I believe there are intelligent people here open to new ideas and are willing to test these ideas.

How about Steve 41oo, are you here to argue with an idiot? Laughing

http://video.google.com/url?docid=-8670604913508341677&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=556&q=

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529&q=marcos+magnet&total=7&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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Whatever happened to the water-fueled engine?

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