Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2015 11:45 pm
1) Should "nor did I find him" be "nor I found him"? That is, with the first sentence reversing, the second should run in normal sequence?

2) Should "10 more times time" be "10 more time time"?

Context:

1) So I said goodby to him and left the schcool. Neither have I found another native Russian speaker, nor did I find him there ever since.

2) A feat that would cost 10 more times time by doing it other way.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 01:45 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
1) Should "nor did I find him" be "nor I found him"? That is, with the first sentence reversing, the second should run in normal sequence?

1) So I said goodby to him and left the schcool. Neither have I found another native Russian speaker, nor did I find him there ever since.

"Nor did I find him" sounds correct to me.

"Nor I found him" sounds wrong.

I believe the "did" is necessary because the sentence is saying whether the author "did" or "didn't" find him.

The first part of the sentence "Neither have I found another native Russian speaker," is saying that the author did not find an additional Russian speaker besides the one he or she had already met.

The second part "nor did I find him there ever since" is saying that the author also did not manage to again meet that specific Russian speaker that he or she was saying goodby to.


oristarA wrote:
2) Should "10 more times time" be "10 more time time"?

2) A feat that would cost 10 more times time by doing it other way.

This one doesn't sound right either way, but I think the "s" belongs on "times".

I would alter the order of the words to:

A feat that would cost 10 times more time by doing it the other way.
A feat that would cost 10 times more time by doing it other ways.

"10 times more" means that the magnitude has been increased tenfold.

However, it may be that I don't fully understand what the sentence is trying to convey since I'm changing so much of it to make it work.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 09:48 am
@oralloy,
Thank you Oralloy.
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".
McTag
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 10:41 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
A feat that would cost 10 more times time by doing it other way.


A task that would take ten times longer done another way.
A task that would take ten times as long (by) doing it another way.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 10:42 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".

To my ears, the sentences work either way. But the first way (the shorter one) is more poetic.
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 10:46 am
@oristarA,

Quote:
Neither have I found another native Russian speaker, nor did I find him there ever since.


That is fairly garbled, and the meaning is unclear.

Try

I have not found another Russian speaker, nor have I met him again. (ever since), or
...nor have I met him again since then.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 01:40 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

1) Should "nor did I find him" be "nor I found him"? That is, with the first sentence reversing, the second should run in normal sequence?

2) Should "10 more times time" be "10 more time time"?

Context:

1) So I said goodby to him and left the schcool. Neither have I found another native Russian speaker, nor did I find him there ever since.

2) A feat that would cost 10 more times time by doing it other way.

The two sentences are badly written and it’s difficult to discern what, exactly, they are trying to convey.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2015 01:49 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".

Instead of parentheses, use dashes, and the word “and” between “study” and “play”: “The three things—work, study and play—seem…”
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:25 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:

Quote:
A feat that would cost 10 more times time by doing it other way.


A task that would take ten times longer done another way.
A task that would take ten times as long (by) doing it another way.


Excellent!
Thank you McTag.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:27 am
@McTag,
Pretty cool and concise.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:29 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

oristarA wrote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".

To my ears, the sentences work either way. But the first way (the shorter one) is more poetic.


Cool!
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:30 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

oristarA wrote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".

Instead of parentheses, use dashes, and the word “and” between “study” and “play”: “The three things—work, study and play—seem…”



seem...? "Seem one" or "seem as one" or "seem one thing" or "seem as one thing"?
ekename
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 02:35 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".


Work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin.
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 03:18 am
@ekename,
ekename wrote:

Quote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".


Work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin.


Excellent! Thank you.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 09:43 am
@ekename,
ekename wrote:
Work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin.

Omitting the "to me" changes the meaning.

With the "to me" the author is referring to his own attitude.

Without the "to me" the author is making a commentary about work and play.


However, your sentences will work just as well with the "to me" added, in my view:

"Work, study and play are as one to me. Like the three sides of a coin."

"To me, work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin."
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 10:00 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

ekename wrote:
Work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin.

Omitting the "to me" changes the meaning.

With the "to me" the author is referring to his own attitude.

Without the "to me" the author is making a commentary about work and play.


However, your sentences will work just as well with the "to me" added, in my view:

"Work, study and play are as one to me. Like the three sides of a coin."

"To me, work, study and play are as one. Like the three sides of a coin."


Excellent!

BTW, I'm sad that so far no one has answered another thread of mine:

http://able2know.org/topic/264900-1
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2015 05:55 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

oristarA wrote:
BTW, I wonder whether " The three things (work, study, play) seem one to me" should be "The three (work, study, play) seem to be one thing to me".

Instead of parentheses, use dashes, and the word “and” between “study” and “play”: “The three things—work, study and play—seem…”



seem...? "Seem one" or "seem as one" or "seem one thing" or "seem as one thing"?

All of the above.
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