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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 08:45 am
I was kinda joking, but its sadly true too, yeh! Do you think my thread about AIDS in Africa would have gotten anything like those 1445 views if I hadnt titled it Bush praise for Uganda AIDS policy raises interesting Qs? Four other threads on the topic that did not mention Bush, the US or the UN in the title got only 50-500 views ...
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Letty
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 10:47 am
Hey, Bo. Well, nothing wrong with chat, and perhaps I should not have put this in the General Category that is denoted for such things, but I do understand what you mean.

nimh, It is unfortunate that Americans do not have a broader perspective of the entire planet, since we have become a global society. but please bear in mind that we are a young nation in comparison to the rest of the world. Europeans, as well as other nations, have so much more history and thus more acumen.

Of course the average American is concerned with aids in Africa and the horrors of genocide(the politicians for another reason). After 9/11, it took a bit for the idea to sink in, that our soil is not sacrosanct and IS subject to direct attack.

If I may make a suggestion. Why not explain at the opening of a thread, why all the world should have a vested interest in what affects all of us who care about suffering.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 11:50 am
Oprah had a segment on HIV/AIDS and hunger in Africa, and it was a very popular show. It's one of the few times Oprah cried as she related the story of how much Africans are suffering. She also supports schools in Africa. In another segment of her show, she brought gifts for the youngsters in Africa - shoes and school supplies - and you can see how much people were moved from that experience. Oprah is one of my fav people on this planet.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 12:47 pm
Quote:
Several of the guys on the Enron tapes actually mention his name as being one of their heros, so we'll be rid of him soon.


Joe continues to entertain hope that I will soon disappear. He wants to sit quietly at a table in a New York restaurant, sipping a cold drink as he watches the barges lazily float by. And this experience will be all the more palatable if he has the assurance that the dreaded Ratzenhofer post is dead -- a thing of the past.

I wish I could accommodate you, Joe, but with all the seed in the ground, and the animals cages repaired, I have nothing else to do but continue posting.

Perhaps in time.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 01:41 pm
Joe and Gus are indeed too much....

Big thunderstorms here....don't want the zapper to make me thread bare.....
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margo
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:06 pm
nimh wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Lol!

They don't just affect America.


Irrelevant. Nobody will react if it doesnt highlight the consequences for America / Americans.

Twisted Evil


Sadly - too true!

I think the non-Americans here try to bring a wider perspective (especially Nimh and dlowan!) - but it's often not appreciated!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:16 pm
All too often I forget that dlowan and nimh aren't Americans. They seem like such - such - Americans.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:19 pm
Margo, please don't include all Americans in that statement, because it simply is NOT true, as I previously stated to nimh.

Coming back to the original topic, the entire idea was just to have input about any thread. Not responding to a thread has nothing to do with it.
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margo
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:20 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
All too often I forget that dlowan and nimh aren't Americans. They seem like such - such - Americans.


edgarblythe
Shocked

I think they seem nothing of the sort!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:27 pm
Very Happy Well, I don't mean it disparagingly. When you get to know somebody well enough, boundaries become almost meaningless.
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doglover
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 02:50 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Oprah had a segment on HIV/AIDS and hunger in Africa, and it was a very popular show. It's one of the few times Oprah cried as she related the story of how much Africans are suffering. She also supports schools in Africa. In another segment of her show, she brought gifts for the youngsters in Africa - shoes and school supplies - and you can see how much people were moved from that experience. Oprah is one of my fav people on this planet.


I have tremendous respect and admiration for Oprah. I saw that show...it was so moving. The joy she brought to those children and the impression she made on their lives was very heartwarming. Sometimes, when I lose my faith in humanity, I remember Oprah and all he good people like her and it brings me back.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:12 pm
Letty wrote:
Margo, please don't include all Americans in that statement, because it simply is NOT true, as I previously stated to nimh.

Coming back to the original topic, the entire idea was just to have input about any thread. Not responding to a thread has nothing to do with it.


Now I'm lost, Letty!

I thought not responding (ie "killing" a thread) was what this thread was about?

Anyhoo - I think there is little mystery in why many threads about America do well - it is largely an American site!

Some non-US threads DO get up - and many get, as Letty said, views but few comments. C'est la vie!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:27 pm
Letty wrote:
nimh, It is unfortunate that Americans do not have a broader perspective of the entire planet, since we have become a global society. but please bear in mind that we are a young nation in comparison to the rest of the world. Europeans, as well as other nations, have so much more history and thus more acumen.


Oh, I dunno. I'm sure that on a purely Dutch board, you'd have to sneak Pim Fortuyn or Balkenende into the title in order to get people to read or react to a thread on AIDS in Africa. Tunnel vision knows no boundaries.

This just happens to be a mostly American site, and thus it's the lack of reference to America or American politicians that kills off a thread usually.

Mind you, I do think mainland Europeans absorb more foreign news than Americans, on the whole - but some continents (and subjects) seem to be a black hole for attention spans anywhere, sadly.

Letty wrote:
If I may make a suggestion. Why not explain at the opening of a thread, why all the world should have a vested interest in what affects all of us who care about suffering.


That doesnt work - been there done that. Bit idealistic.

I guess most people only start paying attention if its about their country, their city, their club. Guess its an inborn thing. And I guess people just like talking about something they already have an established opinion about, which they can brandish against the other side, rather than about something relatively new or still "open". Pity, that, cause it results in endless repetitions of the same exchanges of the same opinions. Hey, I've done my share of that (Iraq) - but its frustrating.
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Diane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:45 pm
Letty, all I can say is that your thread, with the comments from nimh, deb and msolga, is the reason Dys and I just had a great conversation about why there isn't a real political left in the US anymore. We've decided that it is largely due to the influence of J. Edgar Hoover and McCarthy helping to instill a paranoia about the RED PERIL of communism. Perhaps that is a reason threads go off track. Like Osso said, many of us are terribly UN-linear thinkers.
BTW, I love Edgar too. --Our Edgar, not that slimy Hoover. And...I love Letty.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 03:54 pm
I have been quite sad at my inability to incite interest in Iran, Georgia, the former Soviet states... <except for nimh and James Morrison, it seems, who follow alot of global news.>

I am presently simmering a plot to hook us up with current events in China. I suspect things are about to become very interesting there, what with moves toward Capitalism and the brimming Human Rights movement... I expect to see you ALL there!


And, the title will not link to the US!! <a solemn oath>
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Diane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 04:01 pm
Sofia, I might not make it because I have very little tolerance for position statements rather than discussion. I can almost guarantee Dys will be there. He totally enjoys disagreeing with you. Smile
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 04:05 pm
I will look in on your thread, sophia. I often only read political threads, but there are times I must jump in. Perhaps this is one of them.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 04:12 pm
Well, that's sort of nutty, Diane--You seem to make an error, supposing that the thread I mention will be anything other than timely news items and discussion, like all other news-type threads.

Hate for you to miss information because of a preconceived bias--but, whatever floats you...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 04:18 pm
I read a lot about different countries around the world and do read many of the political threads on a2k. I don't post that much on them as I don't have much to add to any given thread except perhaps "I agree", "That's interesting", and No way!", all of which don't help much.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2004 04:21 pm
nimh wrote:
Letty wrote:
Mind you, I do think mainland Europeans absorb more foreign news than Americans, on the whole - but some continents (and subjects) seem to be a black hole for attention spans anywhere, sadly.


Well, I wonder what will happen with Sofia's coming China thread: that really should get more attraction.

(Georgia, btw, was was very 'popular' in the German media, due to Shevardnadze = his role towards Germany and him being a "German darling", close to Gorbachev .)
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