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Ok so how can a computer hard drive last 10,000 years or more

 
 
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 04:28 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Ok, hint time, one gram of this hard drive stores over 600 terabytes of binary code..............................................

And yes the hard drive was in the fallout shelter the entire 10,000 years.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 04:56 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
You have already said the drives didn't survive when you said their platters were melted. Leave it to you to just make stuff up and then change the original when your many errors are pointed out.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:01 pm
@parados,
No, go back and look, the primary drives, which were the same drives that we use today, did not survive. However the non primary or experimental drives did. Most people store their most valuable computer data in multiple forms, as did the owner of this fallout shelter. So one could say that the operating system drive in the computer/s did not survive, but at least one of the backup system drive types did. Your challenge is to ID the drive type that survived.

I might as well give you the answer, at this point, and I will if you ask....

So do you give up?

Or do you wish to complete the riddle on your own?
parados
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:14 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I can't wait for you to tell us what survived when the computer reached temperatures of 1500 degrees. I'm sure it will make as much sense as you have so far.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:22 pm
@parados,
Again the only person who said that temperatures reached 1500 degrees was you.

And the Answer is DNA............................
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:34 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
So keep up next time, this isn't really state of the art anymore, the complete DNA sequence of a mastodon of at least 33,000 years ago has been sequenced, and this was stored in the dirt and ice, with no special treatment, thus a DNA hard drive stored in a library should last for an unknown time, but perhaps for hundreds of thousands of years.

http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070723/full/news070723-3.html

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414627,00.asp

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:41 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
No, you said the hard drive platters were melted. That means they had to reach a temperature high enough to melt. They don't magically do that. A temperature high enough to melt glass or aluminum will most likely destroy DNA.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sat 6 Dec, 2014 05:49 pm
@parados,
The hard drive platters in the main computer were melted, these are the backup drives, that are not even in the same room. You need to get over the fact that DNA storage can store thousands of times more information than can current technology, and that this chemical storage media, has been around for at least 3.5 billion years on this planet. DNA also does not melt, as it is not made of the same glass that are the hard drives of which you are familiar.

Here is a diagram of the coding and decoding process.
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/coding-decoding-dna-storage.jpg

timur
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 07:29 am
Totally inconsistent crap..
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 08:02 am
@timur,
So you believe that the work of Harvard engineers is inconsistent? Ok your opinion has been noted. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.extremetech.com%2Fextreme%2F134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram&ei=8VyEVJKaFa7HsQTw4ILQCg&usg=AFQjCNF4jCP0KabKQPcA2GxzZxAVQtMgDQ&sig2=gtYoPAS1BRiwLiy1QBU8cQ&bvm=bv.80642063,d.cWc
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 08:23 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
The hard drive platters in the main computer were melted, these are the backup drives, that are not even in the same room.

I see you are just going to change the parameters again.
Your original premise said this -
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Yet you are able to retrieve the complete story of the owner of the computer from the machine.

A backup located in another room is NOT the machine. It's a backup. Your original premise precluded any backup.

DNA doesn't melt but the chemical bonds are broken by heat. Why do you think the thousands of year old DNA was found in ice?


By the way DNA isn't binary. Your process clearly shows it has to be encoded and decoded in order to get to binary.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 08:41 am
@parados,
The fact of the matter is that, you were not aware of DNA drives, and that DNA survives tens to hundreds of thousands of years. You also created a 1500 degree temperature out of your own mind, and entered this into the riddle, Lets just say that there were over 1000 DNA drives in the shelter, some in the computer and some alongside the computer and some inside of various vaults in the shelter. All that I mentioned in the riddle is the primary hard drives in the computer proper. The fact is that DNA is holding code in every cell in your body, and that it can also hold the code that makes this network function.....

So your argument is with Harvard and not with me......

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dna-strand-blue-tgac-640x353.jpg
parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:16 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I created a 1500 degree temperature out of your statement. You claimed the drives had melted. Melting aluminum or glass requires heat.

You said the information came from the machine. By now allowing it to be stored elsewhere changes the parameters. Elsewhere in the vault is NOT in the machine.

Quote:
The fact of the matter is that, you were not aware of DNA drives, and that DNA survives tens to hundreds of thousands of years.

You have no clue what I am aware of when it comes to DNA. On the other hand we have your original riddle to show us your errors in creating it. Errors you now want to pretend don't exist.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:23 am
@parados,
You really need to move on with your life........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_digital_data_storage

parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:25 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Why should I move along? So you can pretend you were correct when clearly your original riddle does not meet the answer?
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:29 am
@parados,
You can do some DNA hard drive research. Here are 6.5 million links from Google, that you say can not be real, because there is no number 2 in binary code-----> https://www.google.com/#q=dna+hard+drives

Now have a really pleasant day.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:47 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Still waiting for you to admit your original riddle was bogus compared to your answer.
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:41 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66pjvrKJf1qf9lr1o1_400.jpg
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