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are you happy in false realitly?

 
 
room109
 
Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 08:33 pm
you go to school to educate yourself in stupidity.
where the invalid's are genusis and the others are borderline retards.
where the youth and the adults are bombarded with propaganda from the time of birth.
where it is aganist the code of civilization to go into ones own mind.
the land of internet philosophers toching on the subjects of egoism and asserting that it has no grounds of being mistaken.

it grew out of the ground of negitivite qualities coated in fragrence
etc etc etc.

one will ask for reason's another will say justice and yet another will say aggronance and egotism which are the disguised forms of the will to power -
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 09:06 pm
@room109,
Yes, actually I am happy.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 05:08 am
@maxdancona,
Me, too...

...whether it is a false realitly or not!

"Realitly" indeed!
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One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 05:10 am
False Reality is an oxymoron.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 06:22 pm
@One Eyed Mind,
Indeed. Even a mirage is a real mirage.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 06:30 pm
Jeez, where are all the navel gazing OPs coming from.
George
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 06:39 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I'm guessing Cleveland.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 06:46 pm
@George,
Or about a mile and a half north of Cleveland.
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One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2014 05:04 am
@JLNobody,
That's a great response, Nobody.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2014 06:35 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

Indeed. Even a mirage is a real mirage.


Where the hell have you been, JL?

I've missed ya. Actually, I needed you (or one of the other non-dualists) in a thread the other day...and you were nowhere to be found!
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2014 09:44 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Hi, Frank. I've been busy with retirement activities. A while back I wondered what became of you too. I hope your golf is in good shape.
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carloslebaron
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 05:39 am
A more proper way to say it is "a false interpretation of reality".

A mirage is an illusion. In reality a phenomenon or event is happening, but when its perception is interpreted erroneously, then it becomes a false interpretation of reality.

A common example is when the loony of Einstein fell in the tricks made by motion and distance, and his stupid theories are the corollary of a deep false interpretation of the illusions. And today, lots of scientists still falling in the tricks made by distance and motion, and, funny, they still can't recognize that what for them is "reality" their conclusions are nothing but children's imaginations, this is to say, fantasies.

And you are correct, there is the tendency of portraying handicapped dudes as geniuses, and I don't fall in that illusion. I have read and analyze the books of Hawking, and they are full of caricatures. Some caricatures are made with geometric designs where, who knows how, he interpreted "time" as an arrow going in a certain direction and the universe going in a different direction... what a dump!

And his last book full of "real" caricatures in several pages, rather than a book of science is a children's book with fairy tale stories, like "black holes evaporate"...

Yes, people are happy with false interpretations of reality, because reality is crude, and no many like to face it like it is. Many people prefer to live in the world of the illusion, because when interpreted wrongly the illusions guide you to a word of superfluous possibilities.

fresco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 06:56 am
@carloslebaron,
Laughing
I repeat...
Quote:
Philosophical ignorance about ontology is not unusual!


"Reality" is merely a word used by humans to signify their agreement or otherwise about those states of affairs which concern them. As Kant implied, If there are states of affairs outside of human potential categorization of them, we have no access to them.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 08:52 am
@carloslebaron,
Why are all the crazies picking on Einstein? This has been quite a fad of late.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 08:56 am
@maxdancona,
Because of their ego producing more hubris than the heart pumps out blood, so it all goes to their head.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 08:58 am
@fresco,
I like to distinguish between the "mirage" which is a physical event and an illusion which is an interpretive one. Sometimes--not always--mirages are misinterpreted to be something they are not: that's when we aspire to drink sand. Rolling Eyes
fresco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 10:06 am
@JLNobody,
All reported events are interpretive whether we class them as mirages or illusions or otherwise. A mirage is a type of illusion having an agreed physical explanation. There are other illusions which have neural explanations (such as Mach Lines due to lateral inhibition) or perceptually conditioned explanations (like Muller -Lyer due to living in rectangular buildings). The word "illusion" means that we are can be potentially aware of the fact that our interpretations of the event are "not to be relied on" for certain subsequent actions. Indeed, by extrapolation, the whole topic of religious "experience" can be categorized by differential degrees of reliance between followers and dissenters.

The issue us, as I see it, centred on the word "event". It involves how we define "the event window" and what cognitive tools we bring to bear in perceiving it.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 10:08 am
@fresco,
No, wrong. There is the "tornado", the thing in itself and there is the "tornado", as we interpret it.

A mirage, the "distortion" in itself, is not the same as a "mirage", the interpreted experience.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 10:16 am
@fresco,
Yes, is it not the case that Kant claimed all phenomena are human constructions, that what we experience are only the manifestations of how we filter the "thing in itself"? You agree it seems with Nietzsche and the phenomenalists that there are no things-in-themselves, only our "human" perceptions. That is my view: the world is me (or cada cabeza is un mundo) (or us: i.e., our culturally constituted reality is our effort to create the illusion of a completely shared experience). What is beyond that, the Tao, is ineffable.
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 10:22 am
@JLNobody,
Please tell me you're not into solipsism...

Come on, this Universe existed far before we did. There's physical and tangible evidence that suggests how we came here and why we are here. If you just look at how the eyes contain photo receptors which emerged from space billions of years ago prior to stars emerging. And the human eye has a nebula design, which is also interesting because there are nebulas that look like human eyes. Coincidence?) This world is not through us. We are through the world.
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