ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 08:17 am
@JPB,
Good. I figured the tent thing wouldn't go on.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 12:44 pm
@JPB,
I hope she gets a crapload of money. Her imprisonment was nothing but political theater.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 03:50 pm
So, if health workers who had "known breaches of protective protocol" will be required to stay at home for 21 days - who's paying their salary etc?

Here, you wouldn't get it from the health insurance, because you aren't ill, but get your regular salary paid from your employer. The latter gets it back, according to our Protection against Infection Act, from the state. (For six weeks the full salary, analogue to what you get when you're ill, from the health insurance.) Additionally, the state pays all extra expenses due to the quarantine - and all tax-free.
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 04:38 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

JPB wrote:
I think the NY/NJ/IL requirement of a 21 day isolation/quarantine of any health care provider returning to this country after providing care to sick people in endemic areas is excessive.

I think it's unconstitutional as applied, too.


You could make the at-home quarantine voluntary and offer the at-risk person twice the money they'd make at work during those 3 weeks, in order to get the at-risk people to agree on to it. There wouldn't be many people to quarantine, so the cost to the government wouldn't be prohibitively high.
Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 09:13 pm
@Kolyo,
You're making sense, Koiyo.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2014 09:29 am
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/EngleB/2014/EngleB20141028_low.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2014 10:21 am
From the editorial Ebola and Quarantine in The New England Journal of Medicine:
Quote:
The governors of a number of states, including New York and New Jersey, recently imposed 21-day quarantines on health care workers returning to the United States from regions of the world where they may have cared for patients with Ebola virus disease. We understand their motivation for this policy — to protect the citizens of their states from contracting this often-fatal illness. This approach, however, is not scientifically based, is unfair and unwise, and will impede essential efforts to stop these awful outbreaks of Ebola disease at their source, which is the only satisfactory goal. The governors' action is like driving a carpet tack with a sledgehammer: it gets the job done but overall is more destructive than beneficial.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2014 10:35 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

From the editorial Ebola and Quarantine in The New England Journal of Medicine:
Quote:
The governors of a number of states, including New York and New Jersey, recently imposed 21-day quarantines on health care workers returning to the United States from regions of the world where they may have cared for patients with Ebola virus disease. We understand their motivation for this policy — to protect the citizens of their states from contracting this often-fatal illness. This approach, however, is not scientifically based, is unfair and unwise, and will impede essential efforts to stop these awful outbreaks of Ebola disease at their source, which is the only satisfactory goal. The governors' action is like driving a carpet tack with a sledgehammer: it gets the job done but overall is more destructive than beneficial.



I certainly understand the position of the editorial writers of the NEJM, just as they understand the position of the governors of NJ and NY.

I think they should greet each returning worker from those regions with a great big French kiss to show how sure they are of their positions...which would go a long way toward motivating others to favor this kind of endeavor.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2014 10:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
We should be guided by the science and not the tremendous fear that this virus evokes.


Right, and the science proves that quarantines work, as the authors admit. The is the dispute over whos best interests come first, the few hundred returning health care workers or the rest of the over 300 million of us. I say the collective best interests come first, these few people can put in another 21 days of service to the fight against ebola by being quarantined upon return. We should however make sure that they are financially compensated.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2014 10:51 am
@hawkeye10,
Now, who here can explain why people believe a hype so deeply?

Might it be because it is exploited in the media?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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bobsal u1553115
 
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 08:06 am
Connecticut Girl, 7, Barred From School Over Ebola Fears: Family

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 • Updated at 8:58 AM EDT

The father of a Connecticut third-grader filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday alleging his daughter has been unfairly barred from school amid fears she may have been exposed to the Ebola virus while at a family wedding in Africa.

Ikeoluwa Opayemi and her family, who live in Milford, visited Nigeria for a family wedding from Oct. 2-13, according to the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in New Haven.

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When the girl tried to return to the Meadowside Elementary School, she was told by Dr. Dennis McBride, the school district's health director, that she would have to stay home until Nov. 3 "due to concern from certain parents and teachers that she could transmit Ebola to other children," according to the lawsuit. The virus has a three-week incubation period.

Messages seeking comment were left Tuesday for McBride and School Superintendent Elizabeth Feser.
African Boys Attacked at School, Called "Ebola": Family
[NY] African Boys Attacked at School, Called "Ebola": Family
A group that advocates for Africans in the Bronx is calling for action after it says two brothers who had recently immigrated to the borough from Senegal were beaten and badly injured by several people who called them “Ebola” in school. Roseanne Colletti reports. (Published Monday, Oct 27, 2014)

Andrew Doba, a spokesman for Gov. Dannel Malloy, said the decision did not come from the state's health commissioner, who has been given the power to quarantine anyone she feels may pose an Ebola risk.

"This was a decision by the town's public health official," he said. "The state did not play a role in making this determination, and this family is not under any quarantine orders."

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The family did not travel to any of the three West African nations associated with the current Ebola outbreak — Guinea, Sierra Leone or Liberia.

There have been no diagnosed cases of Ebola in Nigeria since Aug. 31, according to the lawsuit.
Parents, Students Concerned About Ebola at Long Island School
[NY] Parents, Students Concerned About Ebola at Long Island School
Dozens of students stayed home from school Friday on Long Island, concerned about the Ebola virus. At issue: a second-grade student whose aunt and cousin just flew in from Guinea. Jen Maxfield reports. (Published Friday, Oct 24, 2014)

The lawsuit is seeking damages under the Americans with Disabilities Act, asserting that Ikeoluwa is being discriminated against because of a "perceived impairment."

"Based on the best available objective and medical evidence, Ikeoluwa Opayemi did not have Ebola, had not experienced any symptoms associated with Ebola, and, according to an examination by her pediatrician, her health is fine and there is no reason why she should not be permitted to go to school," attorney Gary Phelan wrote in the lawsuit.

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Ikeoluwa's father, Stephen Opayemi, volunteered to have the family screened for Ebola, or have the school nurse monitor her temperature. He said he was instead told by Feser during a meeting with school officials that if Ikeoluwa tried to go to Meadowside Elementary on Oct. 20, she would order her to be removed from the school by the police.

"Dr. McBride stated that although the risk of infection with Ikeoluwa might be minor, the primary reason for his decision that she be quarantined at home for 21 days was due to the rumors, panic and climate at Meadowside Elementary School," according to the lawsuit.

VideoEbola Quarantine Debate Brews as Nurse Returns Home

Stephen Opayemi is seeking an order allowing his daughter to return to school and unspecified monetary damages.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 10:12 am
The world is really crazy! Taking a hoax seriously!

UNBELIEVABLE!
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 11:01 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

"Dr. McBride said... the primary reason for his decision that she be quarantined at home for 21 days was due to the rumors, panic and climate at Meadowside Elementary School,".

Those are not valid reasons for quarantining someone or even limiting their access.

I hope the father wins his lawsuit. He should.
woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 11:04 am
@Frank Apisa,
I have no problem with Christies policy. Small price to pay to protect EVERYONE.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2014 11:19 am
@woiyo,
Quote:
I have no problem with Christies policy. Small price to pay to protect EVERYONE.



Hmmmm, FREEDOM for SAFETY, right???

Hmmmm, well, smells like Orwellian to me!!!!!

I smell a rat!

 

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