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A Quantum Physics Question

 
 
giujohn
 
Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 08:31 pm
If Heisenbergs Uncertainty Principle was abe to be violated right now, what affect would it have on our universe. Would physics as we know them still work or would we even still exist.
(I am not postulating any possibility of this occurring, I just would like to know what you thought would be the result if it did.)
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raprap
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:02 pm
@giujohn,
As a minimum electron orbitals would disappear and Chemistry would no longer behave according to the rules molecular orbital theory.

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giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:10 pm
@raprap,
Agreed. Would that be just before things came together or after as well?
raprap
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:27 pm
@giujohn,
The rules of chemistry would disappear completely--I'm not sure if all the matter in the universe would be annihilated as the electrons would collapse into the nucleus and the universe would become effectively a huge neutron mass or if it would suddenly become a expanding plasma as the nuclear ions would tear themselves apart by electronic repulsion.

In either case nothing good would result.

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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:35 pm
The question is meaningless. Since it cannot be violated, one cannot say what would happen. One can ask what would the universe be like if the principle didn't exist.
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:39 pm
@Brandon9000,
Thanks for the reply...as for meaningless, maybe. Think of it as a mind game. I like to ponder, what if. Sorry, didnt mean to insult your intelligence.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:46 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Thanks for the reply...as for meaningless, maybe. Think of it as a mind game. I like to ponder, what if. Sorry, didnt mean to insult your intelligence.

My point is that as phrased, there is literally no answer. Physics doesn't have an answer for, "If you broke this law, what would happen?" That is why the question might be better phrased in terms of what the universe would be like if the law didn't exist.
giujohn
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2014 04:19 pm
@Brandon9000,
I see your point...sorry for my inelegant phraseology
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giujohn
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2014 04:23 pm
@raprap,
Thank you...that was on line w/ waht I was looking for.
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