All atheists and theists are agnostics?

I don't believe that you do understand simple English, beyond playing idiotic word games. Your latest response confirms that belief for me.

You play idiotic word games all the time, such as that horseshit in which you claim guess and belief are synonymous. I can assure you that i don't care what you believe either, Frank. Every time you reply, you just further demonstrate your ineptitude in the English language.

Rage?

You'd be lost without your silly schoolyard bully routine, wouldn't you Frank. I am under no obligation to enlighten you when you fail to understand simple English.

Yeah, you're a bully, and you can't get along without those idiotic schoolyard tactics, such as claiming i'm enraged. I made a simple statement in clear English. If you can't understand it, that's no skin off my nose.

Okay, but once you deny something (which means to assert that something does not exist)...you create a burden of proof for yourself.

P1. An atheist, by definition, is a person who lacks a belief in god
P2. Frank Apisa is a person who lacks a belief in god
C. Therefore, Frank Apisa is an atheist

A person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

Someone who believes that God does not exist

belief that there is no God.

So tell me Frank, what is your definition of an atheist, and why the heck should I trust your definition over the real and commonly used one?

. . . a 'militant atheist' of the bore-at-cocktail-parties type.

What you are is a sad case who gets his jollies sneering at others. You're not very bright, you're not original, and you're pathetically predictable.

If you can't understand plain, simple statements in English, that's no skin off my nose.

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Okay, but once you deny something (which means to assert that something does not exist)...you create a burden of proof for yourself.

So let me get this straight. Since I deny the existence of teapots orbiting Jupiter, the burden of proof is on me to assert they don't exist? Bahaha. You're one wild old geezer, Frank.

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Secondly, why are you not acknowledging the common definition of atheist? I made the argument:

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P1. An atheist, by definition, is a person who lacks a belief in god
P2. Frank Apisa is a person who lacks a belief in god
C. Therefore, Frank Apisa is an atheist

...And you replied that P1 is wrong. Unfortunately for you, you're wrong.

Oxford says the definition of an atheist is (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/atheist):

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A person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

Cambridge says the definition of an atheist is
(http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/atheist):

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Someone who believes that God does not exist

Heck, even dictionary.com says the definition of atheism is:

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belief that there is no God.

So tell me Frank, what is your definition of an atheist, and why the heck should I trust your definition over the real and commonly used one?

BL0CPARTY wrote:

So tell me Frank, what is your definition of an atheist, and why the heck should I trust your definition over the real and commonly used one?

I wonder if Frank is somehow conflating these notions of 'atheism': (a) one who has no belief in a god or gods [the dictionary definition] (b) one who belongs to, or is identified as belonging to a group of people who call themselves 'atheists', that is, he doesn't believe in God but yet he is not a 'militant atheist' of the bore-at-cocktail-parties type.

They are distinct; there are people who just don't happen to believe in God, and those who thrust their nonbelief in the faces of religious people.

I see you two are still having tons of fun.

Some atheists claim EVERYONE who does not have a belief in gods is an atheist. Babies are atheists in their eyes...and toddlers.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Some atheists claim EVERYONE who does not have a belief in gods is an atheist. Babies are atheists in their eyes...and toddlers.

Personally I would define an atheist as someone who has considered whether there is a god, and decided that there isn't. I cannot see how someone who has not yet become capable of thinking about such a thing can be included.