@firefly,
Quote:He was only 5, not 7, and the strangers were trying helping him to reunite with the class he had wandered away from, who were still somewhere in the park, and "eventually" to a 5 year old could be 5 minutes of wandering around with those strangers looking for the class. Personally, I don't think Elliot could have been missing from the class very long without a teacher noticing he was gone, and starting a search for him. I'm not as impressed with his use of "eventually" as you are.
You're right, he was 5.. I just re-read it, did you realise FF that, yes he got lost but "he" returned to the spot realising his class was gone. A 5 year old scared, panicky, lost, terrified as he describes it, found his way to that exact spot. Shame on the teachers for not head counting eh. So I am impressed with "eventually" because Elliot at 5 found his way back "according to him" to the spot where he went missing. It was at that point that he found strangers. "I was eventually led to my class by the strangers that I talked to" . Perhaps I shouldn't read into that now as eventually could mean "eventually he got to class".
Quote:I do think he might have been struggling with possible issues of homosexuality, or fears of possibly being homosexual, unrelated to any possible history of sexual abuse
I asked D his thoughts he knows I've been discussing this with him from day dot.
His thoughts made sense to me.. I asked him a few questions as he's a man ...
He said, "Elliot in his opinion was mentally incapable of having a relationship with anyone" based on all that I have told him. This is true, he didn't even respect his Mother in the end as she refused to marry the Millionaire. He respected his Father when he "thought" he must be cool able to score another woman so fast at 7 years of age, who thinks like that at 7?
If anything he therefore believes Elliot was A Sexual.
That he still saw himself as a man, regardless of the masturbation, that did not sway him into thinking he may be gay as that's all had, himself, self, help. That was my question. He was not into men, nor porn, nor hookers. He saw himself above that.
I've stated this before as well, people with Autism are highly intelligent. Elliot was highly intelligent at 5 he found his way back, at 7 he realised he was too short and needed to do something he died his hair blonde at 7.
D suggests that his comment of "eventually" meant the problem we are aware of, Elliot found it hard to communicate.. So it took time for him to answer their questions for their assistance.
So no I don't think he had gay tendencies. I think he had mental issues lived in a fantasy world, had damage that screwed his thought pattern, that's evident with his fantasy about women in a camp. Which he gleaned from his Grandfather's history.
He did state he got aroused as well when he saw the Porn, the Prostitute in my opinion he would have said no to, due to they should "go to him"...
I don't think he would have gone past kissing without running.
I don't think he would have been capable of loving a woman even though that was what "he" stated he wanted.
He wrote the Manifesto at 22, so not in the childlike mind of a 5-9 year old.
His Mother noted something before 7 or at 7.. I tend to think she was right on the money.
If his Father tried to get him to see a Prostitute then in his "way" he was trying to open Elliot up sexually, yet Elliot claimed that he told his Father and Mother he didn't like sex.. So, he leaves things out of this Manifesto.
I think what he left out was the "shame" perhaps? That he felt that he masturbated so much yet, at 14 it's "ok" to tell us that, that's normal. Yet his mind couldn't comprehend that it's normal for a man who does not have sex to want a release and to not deny that of themselves.
thing. 