firefly
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:32 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
How she is not coping how the students fear to put on their Uniform now, fear of a copy cat.

That article is quite interesting, Foundy.

And they have arrested someone, a student at the University of Washington, for making internet threats about wanting to be another Elliot Rodger, and saying that he'd kill only women, and more women than Rodger did.

There are possible copy-cats out there.

That's one reason I have mixed feelings that they made Rodger's manifesto public--it's affording him, and his views, more public attention than they warrant or deserve, and wanting that sort of attention/notoriety is part of what motivates copy-cats.
nononono
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:35 pm
@BillRM,
An important note about feminism also:

It's such an incredibly twisted ideology and it spends so much of it's time trying to silence dissent and pressuring people to conform that feminists actually ran Erin Pizzey out of her own country. She had to leave because feminists were threatening to kill her if she didn't shut up. Erin Pizzey, who started one of the first ever women's shelters in the world and who had devoted her life to helping women.

Sure sounds like feminism is about equality to me.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:38 pm
@firefly,
Thanks FF.

If my recollection is correct one if not two of the other Mass Murders had a Manifesto ... Elliot himself was a copy cat FF..

I don't recall if "their" Manifesto's were made public or not though.

In some ways it's a chilling reminder for women to be careful, wary of people like Elliot and will do good. In another way, it does path the way for some idiot to try to beat him and that would not be hard, again with all due respect and love for the Victims and their families and for those that heard/watched and live in constant fear, he did not do a very good job at being a Mass Murderer "thank God"...

Do you note the difference though? I'd have to go back again and read up on the other Mass Murders but I do not believe that either/any of them actually tried to cut off heads of people (sorry again), rather only the shooting spree or basic knives.

I liken him therefore to be a bit more than a Mass Murderer "copy cat" he added pure evil into the mix.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:38 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Did they state where this 6m area was where they were found? Lounge or dining?

It was from the bedroom the two Chinese roommates shared. Their friend was probably in there with them.

Quote:
Police had removed a 6-by-5-foot piece of carpeting in the bedroom the roommates shared. A swath of vinyl flooring around the toilet had been cut away. A few feet of carpeting between the bedroom and bathroom had been cleaned. The limited amount of material removed from the apartment suggested that any altercation was in a confined space, the parents said.
nononono
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:39 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
That's one reason I have mixed feelings that they made Rodger's manifesto public--it's affording him, and his views, more public attention than they warrant or deserve, and wanting that sort of attention/notoriety is part of what motivates copy-cats.


You mean kind of like how Valerie Solanas's SCUM manifesto inspires hatred and violence towards men?

...but that would mean that you would have to acknowledge how hateful feminism as an ideology is.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 05:45 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
I'd have to go back again and read up on the other Mass Murders but I do not believe that either/any of them actually tried to cut off heads of people (sorry again), rather only the shooting spree or basic knives.


Well, Jeffrey Daumer comes to mind. He decapitated some of his victims.
Quote:
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994), also known as the Milwaukee Cannibal, was an American serial killer and sex offender, who committed the rape, murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991, with many of his later murders also involving necrophilia, cannibalism and the permanent preservation of body parts—typically all or part of the skeletal structure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer


And Daumer was found to be sane, and guilty, despite the extremely aberrant nature of his crimes. Had Rodger lived, he most likely would not have been found legally insane either--he knew what he was doing, he knew it was wrong, and he premeditated his acts--that's why he killed himself, he didn't want to have to go to prison.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:01 pm
@firefly,
So he did a leak after doing that ? Wink

Quote:
A swath of vinyl flooring around the toilet had been cut away.


Curious, are they suggesting it was cut way before they attended and the carpet between the bedroom and bathroom was cleaned by Elliot? That would not make sense to me.

Thanks FF.. 6x5 is not very large, yet it appears they weren't in their beds, perhaps by the Computers.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:04 pm
@firefly,
I read the book in reference to Jeffrey Daumer. Ann Rule's version.

Not sure if you have ever read any books by Ann Rule but Albert Fish which I am sure I've mentioned before, made me sick .
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:15 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:

Not sure if you have ever read any books by Ann Rule but Albert Fish which I am sure I've mentioned before, made me sick .

That's why I'd prefer not to read them--I don't want to be sickened by things like that.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:18 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
When I get drunk and go on the internet I end up buying a load of crap off ebay that I don't really need.

And that's about it really.

Nobody should use being drunk as an excuse to look for child pornography. And if they do, they should stop drinking.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:36 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
I'd have to go back again and read up on the other Mass Murders but I do not believe that either/any of them actually tried to cut off heads of people (sorry again), rather only the shooting spree or basic knives.


So how many people had your murder Found Soul, as after all only a murderer would be interest in the details of murders in the same way as only a pedophile would be interested in the details of child porn trading and the laws surrounding this crime.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:39 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
in the same way as only a pedophile would be interested in the details of child porn trading.

So you are admitting you are a Pedophile? About time Bill.

firefly
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:41 pm
@izzythepush,
And he still can't shut up about child pornography in this thread.

He doesn't realize, the more he keeps talking about it, the worse he makes himself look. Then he goes on and on trying to convince people they have the wrong idea about him. He creates his own vicious cycle.

I'm not responding to his crap--he can keep this up from now to doomsday.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:41 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
So you are admitting you are a Pedophile? About time Bill.


In the same degree as you are admitting that you are a mass murderer after all it is your logic if you can call it logic.

Reading books on how to do murders!!!!!!!!!!!!

So how many people had your murder to date Found Soul?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:51 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Reading books on how to do murders!!!!!!!!!!!!


You're funny.

Just like I'm delving into your mind Bill...

I like to delve into the minds of idiots to see what makes them tick Wink

Shhhh I ran out of popcorn...
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 06:57 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Just like I'm delving into your mind Bill..


Well my murderous friend I am still wondering how your mind had connected having a sense of wonder over the advance of technology to killing women.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 07:11 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
I am still wondering how your mind had connected having a sense of wonder over the advance of technology to killing women.


I'm to make sense of that?

Most murderers that are serial killers or mass murderers have a deranged mentality.

There was no technology in Elliot's thinking pertaining to killing all women, excluding those that he would decide would breed. It was pure fantasy, you are the one that wonders but can't act on it, through fear.

He had fear but he acted on it.

Then again you tried, "here kitty, kitty".

FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 07:15 pm
@firefly,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/what-causes-people-to-commit-mass-murder-9402791.html

Quote:
Scientists trying get inside the minds of serial killers and mass murderers have found the combination of mental health issues from autism to head injuries with psychological trauma can lead to violent crimes.

The study at the University of Glasgow is the first of its kind and identified a complex relationship between neurodevelopmental problems and psychosocial factors.

It found that 28 per cent of multiple killers were believed to suffer from autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and 21 per cent had suffered a definite or suspected head injury in the past.

Of those killers with ASD or a head injury, 55 per cent had experienced traumatic events that caused psychological stress.

The lead researcher, Dr Clare Allely, from the Institute of Health and Wellbeing at the university, said: “It is crucial to note that we are not trying to suggest that individuals with ASD or previous head trauma are more likely to be serial killers or commit serious crime.

“Rather, we are suggesting that there may be a subgroup of individuals within these groups who may be more likely to commit serious crimes when exposed to certain psychosocial stressors.”

The findings, published in the Journal of Violent and Aggressive Behaviour, show a relationship between neurodevelopmental disorders, such as ASD or head trauma, and psychosocial disorders, such as exposure to physical or sexual abuse during childhood


I'm still tending to believe, especially given it seems Elliot's Manifesto is one sided, that he was abused in those woods, on that day, when he got lost and "eventually" they took him back.

At 7 or so, you know what your name is, where you live and what school you go to. So anyone that finds you when you are "lost" should immediately find you, your destination not "eventually".

Could still be some merit in that. Anger, revenge, took something away from him that he felt no woman would want him...

I still have that feeling.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 07:19 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
My you are not tracking at all are you!!!!!!!

Even Izzy and Firefly are more connected to reality then you are so I guess I must just suggest that you could benefit with some mental health treatment.

Maybe after treatment you will be worth interacting with but for now all my best for your recovery ............bye bye
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2014 07:32 pm
@BillRM,
............bye bye










Thank GOD for that, the child has left this thread.
 

 
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