Elliot Rodger

@BillRM,

Your ex wife ,took out a restraining order on you, you've admitted as much. Your reasons for not opposing said restraining order don't hold any water. You constantly try to paint yourself as the victim, it's pathetic. You're pathetic.

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@izzythepush,

Once more Izzy how can my statement about a do not assault order be given complete credit but not the other information surrounding the event?

Such as I was the only one assaulted in the relationship and no I did not have the funds to play games with the woman over a do not assault order instead I filed for a divorce and got her out of my life completely.

I kept my home and did not need to file bankrupt by the skin of my teeth.

Now days, I might had spend the funds to get it overturn but it seems at the time not a big deal in having an order to not assault a woman I never did assaulted or plan to assault and was going out of my life as fast as my lawyer could get the divorce through the courts.

In a odd way her actions in lying under oath did me a favor in doing away with any even small desire of mine to save the marriage. Not a real good feeling being the first in my known family line to undergone a divorce.

It did in fact take me from 1982 to 2006 and knowing the lady since 1985 to be willing to trust another woman enough to remarried.

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@izzythepush,

Izz I actually thought it was funny. I was agreeing with you.

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@BillRM,

It's very easy to tell when you're bullshitting, that's how.

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@izzythepush,

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It's very easy to tell when you're bullshitting, that's how.

Sure I am, however to this day that bullshit had not allowed me to be completely free of the bitterness I feel toward my ex-wife after over three decades.

I ran within days of the bank taking my home and sending in the sheriff department to removed her and her children from the home by force before she decided to settle with me.

She would more then likely still be in my home if I had not decided that no price was too great to get her out of my life be that my home or my credit rating being ruin by a bankruptcy.

Oh here some more "bullshits" when I gotten my house back I found that my hundred fifty plus years old collections of nicely bound engineering magazines had been thrown away with all the others books in my home.

Neighbors told me that she had the kids pile my books on a wagon and then taken them to the canal a block away.

There was a small safe in the home that I was under the impression she knew the combination to. In any case one of my first priority was to change the combination but I found that someone in the home had work damn hard to removed the safe door and once again my neighbors told me that the kids had transport the safe door to the canal.

That just a small sample of the "bullshits"......

Short tease I was awaken up at 2 am to find my sister-in-law being held up by two cops and another cops holding my 22 colt woodman with the clip out that I did not know had been removed from the home.........and that was just the start of the bad news that night.

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@nononono,

"Not tonight I have a headache".
"Sorry love that time of the month".
"What the heck are you doing, I'm sleeping".

You forgot to add those into the works Smile

I'm finding it amusing that there is a new word in town "Mansplaining"

Ok, I get where you are coming from BUT, what about all those teenagers who believed in love, once. Bit by bit it was torn away from them as the "boys" purely got what they were after at any cost and destroyed their belief in themselves or their picket fence dream to then deny from there on, any guy that wanted sex until he could prove that was not all he was after.

I don't advocate anything by the way non. I see things in black and white and grey.

Yes, when I look at what I wrote about that is so true of women, they can take on the power but then, a man can also own a bit himself and take control to create a yes.

These pick up places are what I despise as in reality they are finding ways around getting what they want and ultimately are the type of guys that then dump the girl after. Building confidence is ok. Learning techniques to get some action (instead of wanting to know the woman and then get some action) to me is not ok.

Nor is any violence. If I were a man and I loved my then girlfriend and she had a temper when drunk, I'd probably do what you did, walk away, wait for the storm to pass and then reluctantly walk away full stop. I don't think I would have reported it either. Sadly, a lot of women don't report it either and don't know how to walk away.

Nup can't find anywhere where Elliot went on any Men's rights Forum but I bet you if he lived to 30 plus he would have done so ...

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@nononono,

DAVID wrote:

The way u describe it, she slugged u once;

nononono wrote:

She punched and kicked and spat on me repeatedly on more than one occasion.
Like I said, she was a bad drunk. That time she also threw dishes
and a picture frame at me.

I 'm sorry to hear that, n.
U make your case well, with that explanation.
Did u re-consider whether to remain in friendship with her ?
If a girl did that to me, it might well re-define her image in my mind; negatively.

nononono wrote:

I could have easily been cut or even blinded if they had hit me in the eye.

Yes. I see your point.
Did u question the wisdom of remaining with her ?

nononono wrote:

I locked myself in the bedroom until she wore herself out.

I guess that was the best thing to do;
no chance of peaceful discussion, huh ?

nononono wrote:

If the roles had been reversed and she called the police,
they would've taken her seriously and I would've been in jail that night.

Yes. Did u want her in jail ?

nononono wrote:

And it's never a good idea to try to embrace and hold a woman to calm her down while she's attacking you. I know that from personal experience, but honestly that sounds more like something you'd see in a movie from the 1940's starring John Wayne then something that would ever work in real life.

I was thinking of some girls of my acquaintance
with whom it wud work, in my judgment.
I 've posted this incident a few times,
b4 your arrival in this forum (comment is invited):
Years ago, I took in Marilyn, to avoid her homelessness
from destitution. The 2nd time that she lived with me,
she had a 2 year old daughter, Nancy (not genetically related to me).
Marilyn told me one morning that she 'd drunk most of a pint of
161 proof rum and was preparing to take Nancy with her,
in her car to pick up a welfare check, then visit a crack house.
She was resolute. I chose to do my imitation of Gov. George Wallace
standing in my doorway, arms akimbo, blocking her use thereof.
She threatened to call police. I pointed to the fone and gave her
permission to use it to call police, inviting her to explain that
she wanted to drive drunk with her child to a crack house,
with an expired driver's license, expired registration, & lapsed insurance,
but that her landlord was obstructing her egress.
For some reason, she decided against calling. I was watching her
very, very carefully, ready to tackle her, if I saw her move toward
any of my weapons in the house; she did not. She gave up
(after she bopped me on the head with her radio; it did not hurt), obviating my grabbing her.
I was very, very serious about holding her down and not letting her
have access to any of my guns. Do u disapprove ?

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Years ago, I took in Marilyn, to avoid her homelessness
from destitution. The 2nd time that she lived with me,
she had a 2 year old daughter, Nancy (not genetically related to me).
Marilyn told me one morning that she 'd drunk most of a pint of
161 proof rum and was preparing to take Nancy with her,

David you seems to have worst judgement of the women to get involved with then I did even in my younger days. Wink

The White Knight Syndrome where we rescue a damsel in distress and live happily ever after with her is not an uncommon male fantasy and it almost always is a very bad idea to try in real life.

The truth is that most women who are in trouble are in fact groundhog people

No matter how often you dig a groundhog person out of a hole she had dug for herself she will just dig another hole for herself.

Oh the current hole she is in is never due to her own actions or bad judgments but instead is the fault of some bum who had mistreated her.

Little do you know as you listen to her that she will be, in a few months, telling some other White Knight that her problems was cause by you.

The best way of picking a partner is to find one that does not need rescuing of any nature and had live her life in a manner before you met her that show no groundhog blood in her veins.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Sure I am, however to this day that bullshit had not allowed me to be completely free of the bitterness I feel toward my ex-wife after over three decades.

You don't need to justify yourself to a subhuman like izzythepush. Just put the creep on ignore.

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@oralloy,

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You don't need to justify yourself to a subhuman like izzythepush. Just put the creep on ignore.

You have a point and I had done so in the past but having both Firefly and Izzy on ignore might be overdoing the creep blocking..........

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@BillRM,

You have me on ignore? Laughing

You responded to one of my posts today. Laughing

So much for your truthfulness.

izzythepush has a lot more credibility than you do.

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@BillRM,

DAVID wrote:

Years ago, I took in Marilyn, to avoid her homelessness
from destitution. The 2nd time that she lived with me,
she had a 2 year old daughter, Nancy (not genetically related to me).
Marilyn told me one morning that she 'd drunk most of a pint of
161 proof rum and was preparing to take Nancy with her,

BillRM wrote:

David you seem to have worst judgement of the women
to get involved with than I did even in my younger days.

The White Knight Syndrome where we rescue a damsel in distress
and live happily ever after with her is not an uncommon male fantasy
and it almost always is a very bad idea to try in real life.

Living happily ever after with her did not occur to me.
I just took her in.

BillRM wrote:

The truth is that most women who are in trouble are in fact groundhog people

No matter how often you dig a groundhog person out of a hole
she had dug for herself she will just dig another hole for herself.

Oh the current hole she is in is never due to her own actions or bad
judgment but instead is the fault of some bum who had mistreated her.

She did not say that; she blamed therapeutic addiction to Valium.

BillRM wrote:

Little do you know as you listen to her that she will be,
in a few months, telling some other White Knight that her problems was cause by you.

That did not happen.

BillRM wrote:

The best way of picking a partner is to find one that does not need
rescuing of any nature and had live her life in a manner before you
met her that show no groundhog blood in her veins.

Marilyn beat her addictions
to Valium & to alcohol.
She is OK; a friend.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Marilyn beat her addictions
to Valium & to alcohol.
She is OK.

That is wonderful for her but she still not someone I would care to risk having in my life from your story.

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@firefly,

By their friends you will know them, now the apologist for paedophiles is exchanging pleasantries with the misanthrope who fantasises about killing (Italian) children. They're well matched.

Having those two as enemies is a badge of honour.

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@izzythepush,

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apologist for paedophiles is exchanging

???????????????

So let see by that logic your own UK lawmakers who have must more rational sentencing for such crimes as CP trading and somewhere like eighty percents of US federal judges who do not agree with sentencing guide lines for those crimes are also apologists for pedophiles?

Of course you seems never to be able to apply logical to any of your positions on this website.

It would seems if you have your way your nation would follow the US model and increased your total prison population by a factor of ten in order to match the US.

You would be must more comfortable moving to the US and becoming a member of the tea party in my opinion.

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@BillRM,

What has my opinion got to do with the laws over here? You referred to someone watching graphic child pornography as a useful member of society.

As far as logic goes, your legal reforms only go as far as crimes you're probably likely to get caught doing. You insisted that the State of Texas could execute someone before examining DNA evidence that could have exonerated him.

You and logic aren't even on nodding terms, and when I describe you as an apologist for paedophilia (at the very least,) I've nailed it.

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@izzythepush,

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You referred to someone watching graphic child pornography as a useful member of society.

Surely looking at any pictures no matter who sickening it might be does not made a research engineer or a doctor or a firefighter or whoever a worthless member of society!!!!!

A sick member of society but hardly a worthless member of society.

In most cases such conduct seems to call for mandated mental health treatment program and long term monitoring not taking up a jail cell for a non-violence crime that does not directly harm anyone.

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when I describe you as an apologist for paedophilia (at the very least,) I've nailed it.

When driving that nail you seems to had hit your own fingers instead. We have already far too many of our total population behind bars and that punishment should be reserved for the worst of the worst such as for example anyone who take such sick fantasies into real life and directly harm a child.

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@BillRM,

Someone who watches child pornography does so much harm to society, and contributes to the destruction of young lives, that a hundred lifetimes of good work can never make amends.

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@izzythepush,

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Someone who watches child pornography does so much harm to society, and contributes to the destruction of young lives, that a hundred lifetimes of good work can never make amends

OH? So a watcher of such material is in the same class as someone we all can agree greatly contributes to the destruction of young lives such as the sexual predators who rapes children some tens to hundreds of children in a lifetime?

It make sense to you that a watcher of this material in the US can find himself locked up for a longer period then a child rapist?

Children and no one else for that matter gain a damn thing by throwing useful citizens in prisons for decades instead of treating them and monitoring them.

The US had the harshest laws in the western world concerning this crime by far and yet we also have the most people taking part in this crime.

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@BillRM,

At the end of the day all your sympathy lies with the perpetrators of such foul crimes, there's absolutely none for the victims.

Like I said, you and oralboy are well matched.

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