Elliot Rodger

Trying to understand the ravings and actions by a mad man seems to be a monumental task all around, but the above statement by you rings loud and true: "His need for a *beautiful girl* by his side was more like a need for a trophy, that other men could see, which would confirm his manhood in their eyes." That is certainly one aspect of Rodger's fanatical behavior worth entertaining.

The murderer was active on men’s rights fora, where women are highly objectified, to say the very least. They are seen as nonhuman by many such groups, and at the very least lesser than men—sometimes nothing more than targets or things to acquire. What these men write puts them, to me, in the same category as White Power movements, or any other horribly bigoted group that “others” anyone else. While it may not be possible to blame the men’s rights groups for what happened, from the reports we’ve seen they certainly provided an atmosphere of support.

Of course, these loathsome people represent a very small percentage of men out there.

"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." --Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.

Fourth—and this is important, so listen carefully—when a woman is walking down the street, or on a blind date, or, yes, in an elevator alone, she doesn’t know which group you’re in. You might be the potential best guy ever in the history of history, but there’s no way for her to know that. A fraction of men out there are most definitely not in that group. Which are you? Inside your head you know, but outside your head it’s impossible to.

This is the reality women deal with all the time.

I’ve done a lot of modifying over the years. And there’s still a long way to go.

Most people have an irrational belief that if they are not unique or outstanding in some way, and instead are just an average unremarkable person, that makes their life empty and worthless.

oralloy wrote:

Most people have an irrational belief that if they are not unique or outstanding in some way, and instead are just an average unremarkable person, that makes their life empty and worthless.

I doubt it.
Most people are average and unremarkable. They try to fill their lives and make them worthwhile.

I agree. My suspicion is that Madison Ave and social media makes people uncomfortable with their averageness and causes unneeded anxiety

Have we allocated the proper resources to help identify, treat, and potentially confine people whose mental illness makes them dangerous? If not, where do resources need to be directed? Are there enough facilities to treat these people?

The answer is a resounding no. In California, like most states, we have closed 95 percent of public psychiatric beds. Even if a decision had been made to involuntarily commit Mr. Rodger for an evaluation, it would have been extremely difficult to find a bed. The public mental illness treatment system is completely broken. Rep. Tim Murphy in Congress has held hearings on the broken mental illness treatment system for the past year and produced a good bill which could improve it: The Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act. Every member of Congress should be supporting it.

“I don’t care about your sympathy. I don’t give a s--- that you feel sorry for me,” Richard Martinez said during an extensive interview, his face flushed as tears rolled down his face. “Get to work and do something. I’ll tell the president the same thing if he calls me. Getting a call from a politician doesn’t impress me.”
Saying “we are all to blame” for the death of his 20-year-old son, Martinez urged the public join him in demanding “immediate action” from members of Congress and President Obama to curb gun violence by passing stricter gun-control laws.

Did Elliot Rodger’s Therapists Fail?

There you go again, all feminists out there, all the time, thinking alike on how to put men down. You're just wrong on that.

The co-founder of Rap Genius, an online-annotation website, has been fired after marking up the 137-page manifesto of California killer Elliot Rodger with comments that are being called tasteless and creepy.
Mahbod Moghadam used his site, which lets users post notes interpreting rap and hip-hop lyrics, to comment on Rodger's exhaustive autobiography, which includes his reasons for killing six people in Santa Barbara, California, on Friday before apparently turning a gun on himself.
In more than one note, Moghadam called Rodger's writing "beautiful," and in another he speculated on the attractiveness of Rodger's sister.
In a journal and in a video posted online, Rodger had expressed frustrations about not finding women to date and resentment toward couples who kissed in front of him.
He also wrote that his anger toward women intensified after he overheard his sister having sex with her boyfriend. "MY GUESS: his sister is smokin hot," Moghadam wrote.
Moghadam also made comments about a girl Rodger described as the only female his age he ever saw naked.
"Maddy will go on to attend USC and become a spoiled hottie," Moghadam wrote, before adding, "This is an artful sentence, beautifully written... .

Rap Genius has removed the notations. But they were captured and reposted online by Gawker, Re/code and other news sites.
Why #YesAllWomen took off on Twitter
On Monday, Rap Genius co-founder and CEO Tom Lehman released a written statement saying that Moghadam had resigned.
"Mahbod Moghadam, one of my co-founders, annotated the piece with annotations that not only didn't attempt to enhance anyone's understanding of the text, but went beyond that into gleeful insensitivity and misogyny," he wrote. "All of which is contrary to everything we're trying to accomplish at Rap Genius

The line 'women are superior to men' made me sad - especially coming from a guy who is supposedly about mens rights...and it further reeks of victim attitude

Lehman continued, "I cannot let him compromise the Rap Genius mission--a mission that remains almost as delicate and inchoate as it was when we three founders decided to devote our lives to it almost 5 years ago."

You can read Lehman's statement in full here. On Sunday, before his removal from the company was announced publicly, Moghadam tweeted this: "I want to apologize to everyone. I need to hear these criticisms, reflect for real, and work on becoming a better person."

His dismissal seems to clearly illustrate that the other Genius bros (and presumably its investors, most notably legendary firm Andreessen Horowitz, which famously invested $15 million in 2012) are serious about ensuring that Rap Genius reaches its full potential

The line 'women are superior to men' made me sad - especially coming from a guy who is supposedly about mens rights...and it further reeks of victim attitude

What I wrote was an explanation of a specific kind of alienation that only men experience that had been misinterpreted. I wasn't condoning victimhood or stating that men as a whole are powerless.

And I will be the first to admit WOMEN ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR TO MEN. They can create life! That's a huge evolutionary step above men. It's not as big an evolutionary step as say a monkey to a human, but it's still big! But the thing is that being genetically superior wasn't enough for women.