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Debunking relativity

 
 
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 05:36 am
Tesla on realtivity bullshit.

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magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king...., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...', (New York Times, 11 July 1935, p23, c.8).
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tomr
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 06:09 am
@Brandon9000,
I completely forgot about the kinematic equations for rotational motion. Thanks for the reminder. I looked through an old general physics book and scratched my head a little then went to the dynamics book. It kind of felt like cheating when I had to end up using energy to solve the problem. I was just about to ask if there was another way to do it.

You should give out more problems and maybe someone beside me will get a refresher. That last one was a good reminder for me. Did you ever have any Relativity courses? I know some general physics and classical mechanics courses will devote a section to Special Relativity. Did you ever take a General Relativity course? From what I have seen the math for GR is pretty intimidating.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 07:24 am
wow people still really believe this relativity nonsense?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:47 am
@Quehoniaomath,
    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1404/D140414_47_ApolloEclipse_AFCc_16f_950.jpg
The "equivalency principle" hs been nicely proven by the Apache Point laser telescope . The inertial mass equivalency to gravitational mass of large bodies obviously cant be done in a lab. The laser retroreflector has mapped the geodesy of the earth/moon couplet has been mapped to the submillimeter level and the rate at which the moon is moving away from earth hs been determined within a few tenths of a millimeter per year.
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Equivalency principal of SR is correct, CHECK.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 09:27 am
@farmerman,
and you just believe all that on face value?


figures.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 04:38 pm
@tomr,
tomr wrote:

I completely forgot about the kinematic equations for rotational motion. Thanks for the reminder. I looked through an old general physics book and scratched my head a little then went to the dynamics book. It kind of felt like cheating when I had to end up using energy to solve the problem. I was just about to ask if there was another way to do it.

You should give out more problems and maybe someone beside me will get a refresher. That last one was a good reminder for me. Did you ever have any Relativity courses? I know some general physics and classical mechanics courses will devote a section to Special Relativity. Did you ever take a General Relativity course? From what I have seen the math for GR is pretty intimidating.

I could give more basic problems, if that is desired. Special Relativity was covered in my ordinary mechanics class, but I had learned it on my own several years before. I did have one GR class, but it was during a time when I wasn't paying a lot of attention, and so my knowledge of it by this late date is next to nothing. The math, tensor calculus, is intimidating to most people. It was fairly new when Einstein did GR and, in fact, when he realized that he needed it, he had to ask his friend, Marcel Grossman, to tutor him in it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 04:51 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Quote:
and you just believe all that on face value?


Are you all nice and warm with your head up your ass?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 12:08 am
@farmerman,
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Are you all nice and warm with your head up your ass?


And..Voila!
Another very cheap AH of farmerman,
He is really addicted to it,

Or, or something is bothering him, try to guess what? Wink
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:10 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Insults come in many forms asshole. Yours are the indirect forms of toxicity, (a cowards path). I call you out directly for the idiot you are.

BTW, an adhominem is an appeal to ones prejudices. I directly call you out as a fraud, without prejudice. You expose yourself hourly to the folks herein.

Let us see how ludicrous your next post will be
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:12 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Insults come in many forms asshole. Yours are the indirect forms of toxicity, (a cowards path). I call you out directly for the idiot you are.

BTW, an adhominem is an appeal to ones prejudices. I directly call you out as a fraud, without prejudice. You expose yourself hourly to the folks herein.

Let us see how ludicrous your next post will be


something about my postings seem to be very disturbing to you.

May I ask what that is? Is it cognitive dissonance at work maybe?

Or do you just like to use AH's a lot?

I don't like to insult you, no need to, you embarrish yourself, but ehh your funny.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:20 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quote:
May I ask what that is? Is it cognitive dissonance at work maybe?
Whatever you have , don't worry, they have great skills in the healing sciences today. (Unless you believe in Shananaism.

farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:23 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quote:
you embarrish yourself, but ehh your funny.

Yeh (hic) Im an EMbarrishment (hic) Drunk Drunk
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:08 am
@farmerman,
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Here's an experiment for you that will quickly show you how the floor provides force. Walk across the roof of a 12 story building. Notice how you are held in place at that height. Now walk off the edge of the roof. Let us know your conclusions.


we know.Wink
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:09 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Whatever you have , don't worry, they have great skills in the healing sciences today. (Unless you believe in Shananaism.


great skills in gealing sciences?
when do you start reseraching man!

Most people are killed in hospitals! By the right drugs!


You'r more mad then I thought.
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tomr
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 09:12 pm
@Brandon9000,
That's ok on the problems. Did you ever have to take a course in tensor calculus? I guess I mean do you think a seperate knowledge of tensor calculus must be built up before you take GR. I have a GR textbook and it looks like you can get by with calculus or vector calculus, differential eqs and linear algebra. The book says there are really few prerequisites with the additional statement that other required math will be developed as the book progresses. I guess I should probably review SR from my mechanics book and then give GR another shot. I did not get very far the last time I tried to learn it.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 11:34 pm
@tomr,
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That's ok on the problems. Did you ever have to take a course in tensor calculus? I guess I mean do you think a seperate knowledge of tensor calculus must be built up before you take GR. I have a GR textbook and it looks like you can get by with calculus or vector calculus, differential eqs and linear algebra. The book says there are really few prerequisites with the additional statement that other required math will be developed as the book progresses. I guess I should probably review SR from my mechanics book and then give GR another shot. I did not get very far the last time I tried to learn it.


I have done tensor calculations, so what?

Don't you see textbooks are full of gaarbage?
I mean it.
GR is really nonsense to the bone.
Used to stop us hinking.
That lots of people believe it and that it is in the textbooks doesn't make something true offcourse.
Vaccination is in the textbooks too! We have seen what rubbish and bollocks it all is, but it is promoted by the Pharmaceutical Companies (The Medical Mafia) who sell that dangerous shite! Talking about conflict of interests!
Hence, we can't trust textbooks. Offcourse not! we have to start thinking ourselves again.



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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 04:24 am
@tomr,
tomr wrote:

That's ok on the problems. Did you ever have to take a course in tensor calculus? I guess I mean do you think a seperate knowledge of tensor calculus must be built up before you take GR. I have a GR textbook and it looks like you can get by with calculus or vector calculus, differential eqs and linear algebra. The book says there are really few prerequisites with the additional statement that other required math will be developed as the book progresses. I guess I should probably review SR from my mechanics book and then give GR another shot. I did not get very far the last time I tried to learn it.

My GR class did involve tensor calculus. I never knew it well and forgot what I did know decades ago. My understanding the tensor calculus is necessary, but the book you're describing sounds like it's probably worth something, so I'd say go for it. If you do get somewhere with it, let me know how it goes.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 03:38 pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_li5GG5WIrnA/TR9hkAthhrI/AAAAAAAACS8/Ik0PVbQSefY/s1600/Einstein-at-blackboard-chalk-in-hand.jpg


St. Albert's Mathematical Masturbation proves nothing!
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 03:40 pm
Tesla's most scathing condemnation of the Marxist charlatan was penned in a 1934 poem entitled 'Olympian Gossip', written to a friend. In the poem, Tesla sarcastically mocks Einstein and calls him a "long haired crank". An excerpt:

Quote:
While listening on my cosmic phone
I caught words from the Olympus blown.
A newcomer was shown around;
That much I could guess, aided by sound.

"There's Archimedes with his lever
Still busy on problems as ever.
Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."

Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown
And turned your great science upside down.
Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name,
Puts on your high teaching all the blame.

Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."
"I am much too ignorant, my son,
For grasping schemes so finely spun.

My followers are of stronger mind
And I am content to stay behind.


Whoa!!!
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2014 03:00 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
I wonder whether someone might explain Rao's theory in terms that might enlighten your Typical Uninitiated Dumbkopf (me), and what if anything is wrong with it

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