News: Internet Trolls Are Really Horrible People

@Germlat,

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I may have to agree with you here... People despise to hear opposition.

I think people, (you know who you are), love the opposition. It triggers the constant blathering and rage that is an outlet of some sort. Most of it is very predictable and of little value.

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@IRFRANK,

True.

Joe(well said.)Nation

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@Joe Nation,

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That should make it easy for you, Hawkeye, all you have to do is present facts, those opposing you will have no defense.

Joe(facts are very stubborn things)Nation

I don't agree with your position, because sometimes facts are just ignored. Sometimes facts are dismissed in typical alpha style. Sometimes facts are countered with non-relevant facts pointing to another something else (aka, off-topic).

You should have seen this on the thread about Israel "stealing" Palestinean land. No amount of facts (the Palestineans never owned any land) will change the position that Palestineans, by virtue of being an indigenous people DESERVE to have their own country. Usually there is a history of once having had a government on a land. That does not dissuade the pro-Palestinean folk. So, I believe your point is too optimistic, since idealogues are just idealogues, and can never accept an opposing position, in my opinion.

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@Joe Nation,

The problem associated with "facts" is most posters will use a Google search or a WIki search to present "fact" as presented using those tools.

Not a good idea, in my opinion, as solid facts, today, are usually only found in scholary journals and not too many posters want to be bothered looking in the literature ( Journals) to find out what the real facts are.

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@Miller,

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Not a good idea, in my opinion, as solid facts, today, are usually only found in scholary journals and not too many posters want to be bothered looking in the literature ( Journals) to find out what the real facts are.

in other words only the elite should speak or decide. Because that approach has worked so well for us over the last generation, as we have left most everything up to the "experts", as America rots.

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@IRFRANK,

I think typing the word people is not specific enough. I should have typed...there are those instead. Just like in the real world, there are people on online forums with very diverse personalities. It is normal to engage with those you enjoy the most. There are also nuts, sickos, just as in the real world. To think otherwise would be naive.

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Joe Nation wrote:

That should make it easy for you, Hawkeye, all you have to do is present facts, those opposing you will have no defense.

Joe(facts are very stubborn things)Nation

I wrote this to Hawkeye with my tongue firmly in my cheek. When, oh, when will we come up with a way to convey with some form of punctuation not only sarcasm but also those times when we say something with a twinkle in our eyes?

Joe(You are SO good looking!)Nation

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@Joe Nation,

By using the eye-twinkle emoticon. Very Happy

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@Joe Nation,

Some people don't get irony, sarcasm, pathos, bathos, rhetoric, exaggeration or anything that's not 100% literal, regardless of how many emoticons you use. I'm not including OmSigDavid in this group, he knows what's going on, but likes to pretend not to.

Clueless dolts will always struggle, just keep addressing your posts to those of us who weren't hit repeatedly in the head as children.

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@Germlat,

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I think typing the word people is not specific enough. I should have typed...there are those instead. Just like in the real world, there are people on online forums with very diverse personalities. It is normal to engage with those you enjoy the most. There are also nuts, sickos, just as in the real world. To think otherwise would be naive.

I agree there are both types.

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@hawkeye10,

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in other words only the elite should speak or decide. Because that approach has worked so well for us over the last generation, as we have left most everything up to the "experts", as America rots.

I don't agree with either one these statements. We have not left everything up to the 'experts', and America is not rotting. Money runs things and it is not for the greater good. While we have problems, I think rotting is a bit harsh. The biggest change I've seen in my lifetime is the over whelming increase in antagonistic rhetoric, which is reflected here.

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Just thought it worth while to point out, once again, that if you think someone is a troll, the thing to do is to ignore that person. Carry on.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Not a good idea, in my opinion, as solid facts, today, are usually only found in scholary journals and not too many posters want to be bothered looking in the literature ( Journals) to find out what the real facts are.

in other words only the elite should speak or decide. Because that approach has worked so well for us over the last generation, as we have left most everything up to the "experts", as America rots.

You are implying that one must be highly educated to read the best sources?

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@Joe Nation,

Joe Nation wrote:

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Joe Nation wrote:

That should make it easy for you, Hawkeye, all you have to do is present facts, those opposing you will have no defense.

Joe(facts are very stubborn things)Nation

I wrote this to Hawkeye with my tongue firmly in my cheek. When, oh, when will we come up with a way to convey with some form of punctuation not only sarcasm but also those times when we say something with a twinkle in our eyes?

Joe(You are SO good looking!)Nation

You're waxing poetic?

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Clueless dolts will always struggle, just keep addressing your posts to those of us who weren't hit repeatedly in the head as children.

"Dolt" or undereducated? Reminds me of the BBC program, "Cafe." What's with those people? Living by a sea resort makes the locals somewhat simple?

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@Foofie,

Foofie:

Since you live in NYCity, you could probably go over to the JTS ( Jewish Theological Seminary ), and ask to use their library. There, and in their bookstore, you'll find many excellent sources on the subjects you posted about Israel.

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@Miller,

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Foofie:

Since you live in NYCity, you could probably go over to the JTS ( Jewish Theological Seminary ), and ask to use their library. There, and in their bookstore, you'll find many excellent sources on the subjects you posted about Israel.

I don't know what you are referring to. I would not go to the Jewish Theological Seminary anyway, since I prefer just a regular secular library. I am really not comfortable around the Orthodox, modern or otherwise. Any Jewish friends I every had were really like myself in being secular and Ashkenazi.

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