fishin' wrote:Perhaps someone at Harvard wouldn't write using those words. But then those words were written by anyone at Patrick Henry either. They were written by a newspaper columnist critical of PHU. I seriously doubt anyone at PHU would approve of that text as a description of their school either.
The following is from the web site linked at the beginning of the article:
The Patrick Henry College Board of Trustees wrote:Adopted by the Board of Trustees September 28, 2002
The Mission of Patrick Henry College is to train Christian men and women who will lead our nation and shape our culture with timeless biblical values and fidelity to the spirit of the American founding. In order to accomplish this mission, the College provides academically excellent higher education with a biblical worldview using classical liberal arts core curriculum and apprenticeship methodology.
The Vision of Patrick Henry College is to aid in the transformation of American society by training Christian students to serve God and mankind with a passion for righteousness, justice and mercy, through careers of public service and cultural influence.
The Distinctives of Patrick Henry College include practical apprenticeship methodology; a deliberate outreach to home schooled students; financial independence; a general education core based on the classical liberal arts; a dedication to mentoring and discipling Christian students; and a community life that promotes virtue, leadership, and strong, life-long commitments to God, family and society.
The Mission of the Department of Government is to promote practical application of biblical principles and the original intent of the founding documents of the American republic, while preparing students for lives of public service, advocacy and citizen leadership.
The Mission of the Department of Classical Liberal Arts is to provide students with a broad background in classical languages, logic, rhetoric, Biblical studies, history, English composition and literature, philosophy, science, and mathematics. They will encounter a multiplicity of ideas animating the world's great leaders and thinkers of the past in order to see how God has worked in and continues to work in His creation.
Additonally,
The PHC Board wrote:Adopted by the Board of Trustees September 28, 2002
The College is, and shall always remain, a Christian institution dedicated to bringing honor and glory to the Lord Jesus Christ in all of its activities. Each Trustee, officer, faculty member and student of the College, as well as such other employees and agents of the College as may be specified by resolution of the Board of Trustees, shall fully and enthusiastically subscribe to the following Statement of Faith:
There is one God, eternally existent in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
Jesus Christ, born of a virgin, is God come in the flesh.
The Bible in its entirety (all 66 books of the Old and New Testaments) is the inspired word of God, inerrant in its original autographs, and the only infallible and sufficient authority for faith and Christian living.
Man is by nature sinful and is inherently in need of salvation, which is exclusively found by faith alone in Jesus Christ and His shed blood.
Christ's death provides substitutionary atonement for our sins.
Personal salvation comes to mankind by grace through faith.
Jesus Christ literally rose bodily from the dead.
Jesus Christ literally will come to earth again in the Second Advent.
Satan exists as a personal, malevolent being who acts as tempter and accuser, for whom Hell, the place of eternal punishment, was prepared, where all who die outside of Christ shall be confined in conscious torment for eternity.
Now, certainly, i don't say that these folks have no right to what it is they choose to believe, nor that they wish to inculcate it in those who demonstrate their willingness for the process by enrollment. I consider it bordering on the ludicrous to suggest that Harvard University has anything remotely equivalent in terms of a narrowly defined appeal to unfounded statements about the nature of the cosmos, its origin and its likely fate; nor, yet again, stating that it supports a political agenda based upon such a narrow dogma, nor any dogma, which it is their purpose to inculcate into their students with the long-term goal of injecting any such description of values into the polity. I don't deny the right of the Patrick Henry Board to any of these constitutionally expressed freedoms of the Republic--it consider it an absurdity to suggest that this is equivalent to the ordinary position of a Board of an institution of higher learning in this nation. Such institutions are undoubtedly a plurality, but i doubt even a significant fraction of all sound institutions of higher education. I suggest that you are painting these folks in the best possible light to support a shakey thesis, which also entails implications of a sinister character to the aggregate of the staff of Harvard University which i doubt you'd be able to support--and certainly not as easily as one can support a characterization of PHC for it's fundamental christian nature, given the convenience with which PHC provides its "mission statement."
Fishin' wrote:Of course it is. It's written by someone that wrote an entire article that is critical of the school.
My remark about a guileful statement was directed at you. My position on a likely significant distinction to be made between the
stated goals of these respective institutions of higher education is based upon the site originally linked and the publised mission statement there. Now, i certainly did not look for an equivalent statement about Harvard--but then, i'm not the one advancing the proposition that an equivalence in tone and expressed belief, as well as expressed intent to interject any set of values into the polity can be found at Harvard. I suggest that this is a case of you making an extraordinary claim, and i see no reason to accept your statement absent the proof which is ordinary considered to be an onus of someone advancing such a claim.
The article subsequently quoted does not contradict, nor is it contradicted by the mission statement and statement of beliefs provided by PHC, nor are the statements of those quoted in the article contradictory to those statements. Despite what you may allege about bias or hostility on the part of author,
The Independent is a sufficiently reputable journal to suggest reasonably that they have an ordinary care for the accuracy of what they publish, as will be the case with any such journal jealous of the high reputation upon which a good deal of their circulation is based. Basic economic sense says that such a paper, wishing to appeal to a wide and comfortably literate audience, and reliant upon advertising revenues for its bottom line--will not publish that which it cannot defend in court. You will likely know this better than i, or have the resources to deny it, if you think appropriate--but all i've ever read tells me that libel is much more easily prosecuted in the United Kingdom than here.
Like Shakespeare's Lady of Denmark, you protest too much.
Quote:Nope. I certianly see lots of room in between those two postions. When was the last time you heard a commencement speech that encouraged anything but for the graduates to acheive great things in their lives? They may not choose the exact words that the writer of the article chose but the jist of any graduation speech is the same. Telling the graduates that they should go out and seek to be captians of industry, political figures, etc.. is standard graduation fodder. Are those not "postions of authority and influence"?
I'm quite well aware of sort of "cookie cutter" exhortations which constitute standard commencement addresses. That in no way lessens the absurdity of suggesting an equivalence in the expressed goals for their graduates of these two respective institutions. As far as i am concerned, you haven't made a case for a reasonable comparison.