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Morally Discriminatory

 
 
Reply Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:06 am
Morally Discriminatory
In the common way discrimination is seen in isolation as a universally evil value opposed to equality.
But the values of a society are those that exist within it.
In the whole world of values, with societies that are at opposing poles of values, then there must be discrimination between them. Obviously so because that universal 'society' is not unified, and if it did exist in reality - such as our world today - then it would be one of moral Chaos.
There is no discrimination within the Altruist society, because it would not be altruist if its individual members, and groups, did not share the same set of ethical values.
But there is a complication that exists within a society, or at least a confederation, country or political state, which has a variety of perhaps ancient tribal and other social groups absorbed into it. In a Tyranny these minorities may well be persecuted and extinguished, as is still happening in our own world. However, in a country espousing some degree of Altruism, providing the minority group has values which are compatible, that minority would be protected. This might well require a degree of ethnic discrimination, so that the weight of the majority does not obliterate or absorb the minority. Altruism is not simply based on the individual as a component, it also has communities as components.
At a certain and appropriate level morality is all about discrimination.

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Reply Sun 29 Dec, 2013 06:02 pm
@RW Standing,
RW Standing wrote:
Morally Discriminatory
In the common way discrimination is seen in isolation as a universally evil value opposed to equality.
But the values of a society are those that exist within it.
In the whole world of values, with societies that are at opposing poles of values, then there must be discrimination between them. Obviously so because that universal 'society' is not unified, and if it did exist in reality - such as our world today - then it would be one of moral Chaos.
There is no discrimination within the Altruist society, because it would not be altruist if its individual members, and groups, did not share the same set of ethical values.
But there is a complication that exists within a society, or at least a confederation, country or political state, which has a variety of perhaps ancient tribal and other social groups absorbed into it. In a Tyranny these minorities may well be persecuted and extinguished, as is still happening in our own world. However, in a country espousing some degree of Altruism, providing the minority group has values which are compatible, that minority would be protected. This might well require a degree of ethnic discrimination, so that the weight of the majority does not obliterate or absorb the minority. Altruism is not simply based on the individual as a component, it also has communities as components.
At a certain and appropriate level morality is all about discrimination.
In the 1950s, there was a case decided by the USSC,
Browder v. Gayle 352 US 903, wherein it was held to be un-Constitutional
for government to deny equal protection of the laws, for even a few
minutes of seating on a bus. THAT discrimination was held to be
intolerable, as a matter of Constitutional Law.

Now, people have been denied licenses to carry guns to defend
their lives and property (worth a lot more than a few minutes
of seating on a bus). So far, the judiciary has not outlawed
discrimination in regard to the right to fight back to save your life. We await.
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 07:26 pm
@RW Standing,
However if, in theory, everyone in a society had the same morals then they would all agree on a legal system and form of punishment for crimes. This would be far from chaotic, right? I don't think this would be a pleasant place to live, but it would work. Also, I don't think that moral discrimination is the way to put it. Maybe like different moral priorities or principles? This allows opinions to be given without judgement and you can't really be truly "wrong" about morals because not everyone thinks the same. For example, I'm a huge believer in sex after marriage, but I can't judge someone because they think if you love someone than go ahead and do it. Am I making sense?
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