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When should it be acceptable to kill a human?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2013 08:33 pm
@chai2,
Quote:
I once owned a 1971 AMC Hornet with a "desert only" setting on the A/C.


That setting was also for those times when your freezer went on the blink. You could move all your steaks, hamburger, etc into the Hornet.
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Deaths Bane
 
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Reply Sat 7 Dec, 2013 08:20 am
@Uncle jeff,
If they are killing somebody else, & taking their life is the only way to stop it.
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Deaths Bane
 
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Reply Sat 7 Dec, 2013 08:22 am
@Uncle jeff,
when they go to a 1 Direction concert
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 7 Dec, 2013 09:31 am
@Uncle jeff,
Uncle jeff wrote:
I was wondering what people think?
Not looking for any laws just what philosophy on the question that you have.
Self defense
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 7 Dec, 2013 10:55 am
So, basically, you're kidnapping this guy's thread, except for the last poster.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 7 Dec, 2013 02:44 pm
Taking this thread seriously, it is acceptable to kill someone during the actual process of self-defense. That is to say WHILE he is trying to kill you, but not at some time before his attempt to kill you, i.e., it cannot be a preemptive strategy to prevent murder at some hypothetical future time. Otherwise, I, like others, could always manage to find a reason - a justificatory rationalization - for killing someone, but this then gives him the right for constructing some reason to kill me.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 01:57 am
@JLNobody,
Yeah, that 's a terrific idea; wait as long as u want.
Uncle jeff
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:14 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Hmm. Could you describe a scenario?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 12:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
? Wait for what?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 01:08 pm
@JLNobody,
Wait for him to kill u.
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anonymously99
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2013 08:21 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Greek?
LXX οὐ φονεύσεις, -- LXX Thou shalt not kill,
AaronJW
 
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Reply Fri 14 Mar, 2014 01:22 am
@Uncle jeff,
If they do detriment to society.
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HexHammer
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 01:19 pm
@Uncle jeff,
When they ask silly questions.
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 01:45 pm
Incarceration maybe, but to take a life intentionally, it should never be acceptable to kill another human being.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 02:43 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:

Incarceration maybe, but to take a life intentionally, it should never be acceptable to kill another human being.
In that reality which I reside, it would be very reasonable to defend ones country against invaders, or kill a psychopath that will kill ones family for no apparent reason.

..maybe not in your reality where everything seemingly is perfect.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 04:04 pm
@Smileyrius,
I agree--incarceration only--one may justifiably kill only in self (or other) defense, never as punishment (which is usually just revenge). I see Texas, for example, as little more than a "legal" (but not ethical) murderer.
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 04:26 pm
@HexHammer,
It might be a common consideration that if someone would wrongfully kill you that it is rightful to kill them. I do not share it, but understand your position.

would you say your qualifier would be that it is ok to take a life when your own life depended upon it?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 05:47 am
@anonymously99,
anonymously99 wrote:

Greek?
LXX οὐ φονεύσεις, -- LXX Thou shalt not kill,
I cant speak nor read Hebrew,
but some Jews have informed me that a more accurate translation of that is: "Thou shalt not murder."
We kill fish, wheat and corn when we harvest them.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 09:21 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:
I agree--incarceration only--one may justifiably kill only in self (or other) defense,
never as punishment (which is usually just revenge). I see Texas, for example,
as little more than a "legal" (but not ethical) murderer.
It was explained to me, as a kid in school,
that the law asks citizens to restrain themselves from personal vengeance
upon the assurance that GOVERNMENT WILL AVENGE VICTIMS OF CRIMINAL ABUSE
to an appropriate degree
and government has a better apparatus to identify
the perpetrator of an offense. I thought that was reasonable, if thay actually DO it,
but if government were to default in those duties: THEN,
morally the right to get even reverts to the injured party.

Tho I was not much impressed by the actor called Mr. T on-the-job,
I must say that I ADMIRED an auto-biografical comment that he made
to Barbara Walters, during an interview, to wit:
his mother complained of getting mugged in their naborhood;
she mentioned the name of the perp. Mr. T said that he and his brothers
went and found that perp in their naborhood and "you won 't see him no more."
Asked whether thay 'd killed him, he declined comment,
but he re-iterated that: "you won 't see him no more." He sounded confident.

That made me feel good.
I hold him in HIGHER ESTEEM THAN I DID BEFORE.





David
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IanRust
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 09:39 pm
@Uncle jeff,
HUmans should be killed when they are unyieldingly destructive of life and natural order. This way life continues
 

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