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What was the main reason that Germany lost w.w.2?

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 01:15 am
@count markovalley,
You really don't understand how news media worked in the 1930s. The only significance of news media manipulation in Germany in the 1930s was the promulgation of the "big lie" by Hitler. (Click here to read about Hitler's use of the big lie.) There was no television, and radio broadcasts were designed for domestic consumption. This is clearly a case of not knowing what the hell you're talking about. There simply was no "world media" in the 1930s as there is today. Hitler blamed the Jews for inventing "the big lie," and then used that as an excuse to use it himself. Your claims about who controls international finance and who controls the so-called world media strongly suggest to me that you're an anti-Semite. Your suggestion that who controls finance and "the world media" is a given is as idiotic as your opening premise that Germany had the best army in the world and superior weaponry.

Sieg heil, you nasty little Nazi.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 01:24 am
@Setanta,
In 1932, there were 4703 newspapers in Germany - published from five times daily to once per week.

In 1933, the Schriftleitergesetz ("Editorial Control Law") took effect in Germany, placing the press under the control of the government ...
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 03:16 am
@count markovalley,
Count wossisname wrote:

......."Every major media in the world portrayed germany as a nation out to conquer the world and deprive the world of its freedoms."

Just out of interest, how do YOU explain Germany's actions at that time?
What do YOU think they were trying to do?


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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 03:18 am
....this should be interesting.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:45 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Chuck Yeager,

He also said it mattered a lot more who was behind the stick than the performance characteristics of the plane.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:47 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Most of the bad carrier landing scenes in Victory at Sea involve Corsairs. The one thing the Corsair never got good at was carrier landings.

How many of these other airplanes operated off of carriers? (Answer: you've shown yet again that you don't understand selection bias.)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:59 am
@DrewDad,
Which has what to do with the time in the air range of the aircraft?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 07:57 am
@Setanta,
The New Yorker and other (international) media had had an interesting report about a film (the first American ant-Nazi film, 1934) recently re-found in the Royal Belgian Film Archive:
Hitler's Reign of Terror
Interesting the reasons why this film wasn't shown a lot (besides being not the best art) can be read in this wikipedia report, too.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 08:05 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Which has what to do with the time in the air range of the aircraft?

Why are we here? Is there any meaning to the Universe?

DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 08:06 am
@DrewDad,
Mustang pilots: They like to go fast and turn left.

(Turning left was made easier by the torque of the engine.)
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 08:43 am
Never mind who had the best fighter plane, as everyone knows that success in the air was totally dependant upon the intelligence and general bravery of the pilots.

Of course, the RAF boys were streets ahead of everyone else....

Examples, for the use of :-



Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 10:01 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

The real reason for the defeat, leaving aside Hitler's incredible stupidity, was that they had bitten off more than they could chew. They didn't the have the men, the industrial resources, the fuel or the food to take on the western Allies and the Soviet Union. Germany was starving by the beginning of 1945. Starving nations generally don't do well in wars.


Or, the Austrian wanted to lose from the get-go, to make sure that his beloved Austria would never be under the hegemony of the German nation. Losing to the allies assured that. Perhaps, he is smirking with satisfaction in the ether?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 10:45 am
@DrewDad,
Apparently, there's little meaning to the universe as you see it. You replied to my post with a non sequitur. I was just wondering if you thought there was any relevance in your reply. I accept that you acknowledge that there wasn't.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 10:55 am
please show me my error: Hitler planned to take land and convert those people into labourers for Germany. But in practice he could not defeat sabotage or the harbouring of the underground. Hitler lost because he over estimated his ability to enslave people, he lost because he did not have a good enough understanding of human nature.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 11:04 am
@Setanta,
I'm saying that I thought it was a conversation, not a mathematical proof.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 11:26 am
@Lordyaswas,
Were all RAF fighter pilots required to smoke pipes and talk unintelligibly?
contrex
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 11:44 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Were all RAF fighter pilots required to smoke pipes and talk unintelligibly?


Someone in Bomber Command that my father knew said they were known, in that section of the RAF, as "Dowding's bum-boys".
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 11:55 am
Your father's friend would have been one of the boys from Arthur Harris and Sons, House Removers?
contrex
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 01:05 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Your father's friend would have been one of the boys from Arthur Harris and Sons, House Removers?


That's right. Navigator on a Pathfinder Mosquito squadron.
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 01:51 pm
@Setanta,
Well spotted Setanta. A google search confirms your suspicions about count markovalley. He is presumably pathetically digging for a "zionist type" conspiracy to account for the defeat of Germany.


BTW as to the image of a an upper class RAF, apparently this was mostly a myth perpetuated by the "RP" accents Britsh actors needed to adopt in order to get employment in the war flim industry. The statistics on RAF recruitment indicate a much wider variation of idiolect.
 

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