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Terrorist attack in London

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 07:28 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
They must hate the freedoms of the UK people, right, Finn? There's just no other reason for this to happen.

Well, sort of.

Ultimately the reason these guys committed their murder was because the UK didn't kill them first.

If these guys had already been blasted into piles of hamburger, they would have had difficulties in carrying out their attack.

That's why it is so important to continue, and even increase, the dronestrikes.

But yes, as far as motive goes, they are motivated primarily by a hatred of freedom and democracy.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 07:37 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Where are all the folks ranting and raving about whether Izzy, McTag, Contrex, ... are safe and sound.

I hope McTag is safe, and also that those he cares about are safe.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 07:43 am
@oralloy,
you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree? I wish that you remain safe and we don't even agree on the Law of Gravity
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 08:02 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
But yes, as far as motive goes, they are motivated primarily by a hatred of freedom and democracy.


But you won't touch this bit of arrant nonsense, above, with a ten foot pole, Farmer. I wonder why that is.
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 10:14 am
@JTT,
PM sent
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 11:32 am
@izzythepush,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
This woman is either crazy or incredibly brave (or both)
izzythepush wrote:
It's the UK, stiff upper lip beats running around like headless chickens any day.
Ideally, each Englishman who chooses to do so, will freely enable himself or herself for personal defense
(whereof decedent appeared to be incapable).





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 11:37 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree?
I wish that you remain safe and we don't even agree on the Law of Gravity
His post indicates THE OPPOSITE, of what u commented.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 12:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I have never come across a lawyer/ex-lawyer this thick and I've seen some doozies.

Did you suffer some sort of serious brain injury, Sig?
contrex
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 02:14 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Where are all the folks ranting and raving about whether Izzy, McTag, Contrex, ... are safe and sound.


Well, I'm in Catalunya so joloff rice eating Sarf London nutters (oh sorry, "Islamist terrorists") would have to fork out for airline tickets if they want to kill me.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 02:21 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Nobody over here is talking about relaxing gun laws, it's not anyone's agenda, and it will never happen. There is talk about whether or not more police should be trained to use firearms, as the police were on the scene in 9 minutes but had to wait another five for an ARV.

Guns would have turned a tragedy into a catastrophe. If the thuggish, far right EDL, who turned up to throw bottles at the police, had been armed we'd be mourning a lot more than one death today.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 02:24 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree? I wish that you remain safe and we don't even agree on the Law of Gravity


I hope the farmer comes home early and catches him in the sty, then he'll have a lot of explaining to do.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 03:05 pm
@izzythepush,
farmerman wrote:
you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree?
I wish that you remain safe and we don't even agree on the Law of Gravity
izzythepush wrote:
I hope the farmer comes home early and catches him in the sty,

then he'll have a lot of explaining to do.
Explain WHAT??
Oralloy said: "I hope McTag is safe,
and also that those he cares about are safe."


McTag is on YOUR side (did he switch???), on the anti-liberty side.

Oralloy expresses benevolence & magnanimity toward McTag
n those he cares about -- not toward ME.

Will u explain the problem to me ?





David
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 03:30 pm
I wonder what proportion of these a2k threads end up in playground behaviour?
Getting back to the subject, the poor lad who was killed was only in his 20's and had a 2 year old son.
The bastards ran him over with their car first, in order to disable him, before doing what they did.
My family comes from this part of London, and I know from experience that the locals are tough, and don't back away from a fight.
I am actually amazed that there hasn't been major payback for this, and take my hat off to the local authorities for keeping things under control and defusing the situation. Nods to the local muslims as well for totally denouncing this atrocity.
I know it sounds funny, but I'm also thankful that the weather is so bleedin' atrocious and cold at the moment, because if we were having a nice summer heatwave at this time, I could envisage a whole different and scary scenario.
There's no better ally to law and order than freezing cold, wet weather.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 03:42 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Nobody over here is talking about relaxing gun laws,
it's not anyone's agenda, and it will never happen.
That is so sad that it almost breaks my heart.
(I think that the structural histories of our respective governments r antithetical.)
Google tells me that there r over 50,000,000 people in England.
Of all those people NO ONE loves liberty?

Not even enuf liberty be ABLE
to defend his or her own life ?
?
My grandfather was from Devon Shire, England, in the 18OOs.

Historically, the English used to take pride
in being freedom-loving, and having relative freedom.

I will not challenge u on the facts; u r there on the scene.
If u say it is so, then I 'm sure it is.



izzythepush wrote:
There is talk about whether or not more police should be trained to use firearms,
That 's like a discussion qua whether
MORE cardio-vascular surgeons shud be trained,
with a consensus against citizens' possession of defibrillators.





izzythepush wrote:
as the police were on the scene in 9 minutes but had to wait another five for an ARV.
About 3O years ago, I saw a demented bum
breaking the window of a women's shoe store on Madison Ave. & 54th Street.
I called the police; I was very surprised at how fast thay arrived.
The word instantly comes to mind (maybe within a minute ? )



izzythepush wrote:
Guns would have turned a tragedy into a catastrophe.
Maybe less of a (final) catastrophe for the decedent,
if he 'd had adequate firepower.
(Personally, I favor a .44 special revolver, for walking in better safety.)



izzythepush wrote:
If the thuggish, far right EDL, who turned up to throw bottles
at the police, had been armed we'd be mourning a lot more than one death today.
I know nothing of the "EDL", nor do I
understand the concept of being "far right" in England,
in that I do not believe that u have in mind the constraints of the US Constitution.

WHAT is the subject matter of the conservation, in England?
Being "far right" means being conservative, orthodox, NOT varying from something;
I know not WHAT. Something about the Monarchy ??





David
contrex
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 03:49 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Did you suffer some sort of serious brain injury, Sig?


I think he was born that way. he is such a seriously stupid prick, to a pathological degree, that his pronouncements are just noise, basically.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 03:55 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:

JTT wrote:
Did you suffer some sort of serious brain injury, Sig?


I think he was born that way. he is such a seriously stupid prick, to a pathological degree, that his pronouncements are just noise, basically.

Go stick your head down the toilet and flush yourself away.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 05:50 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I'll let the EDL tell you what they stand for in their own words.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 06:55 pm
@izzythepush,
was that fellow fresh from the warm confines of a nearby public house where he had single handedly consumed several large measures of malt beverages? He sounds impaired



MUSLAMIC RAY GUNS??
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 07:42 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree?

It is not really accurate to characterize "good verses evil" as a matter of mere disagreement.


farmerman wrote:
I wish that you remain safe and we don't even agree on the Law of Gravity

I certainly differ when it comes to your hatred of civil rights, but I don't know that our disagreement extends beyond that issue.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 May, 2013 07:43 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
farmerman wrote:
you seem to only wish safety upon those with whom you agree?

His post indicates THE OPPOSITE, of what u commented.

I have never come across a lawyer/ex-lawyer this thick and I've seen some doozies.
Did you suffer some sort of serious brain injury, Sig?

OmSigDAVID is correct. I do disagree rather strongly with some of the awful things that McTag says. And I do still wish him well.
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