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the consequences of the rebellion, and what Jehovah intends to do about it.

 
 
ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 06:28 pm
@reasoning logic,
It is blocked from being viewed.

In any case every little kid in English-speaking North America of my generation learned it.

It doesn't answer my question.
reasoning logic
 
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Mon 6 May, 2013 06:43 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
It is blocked from being viewed.


It is from watching it here but it did tell you how to view it if you were interested, all you had to do was click on it.

Quote:
In any case every little kid in English-speaking North America of my generation learned it.


Not the song I shared but oh well, just as others believe what they think is true so do you and me fall at times as well.

Quote:
It doesn't answer my question.


How could you be certain if you were not able to hear it? Is this your belief?

The below song is not the same but it is good. Laughing

ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 06:52 pm
@reasoning logic,
I got to it and yes everyone sang that as well.

It doesn't answer my question.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Mon 6 May, 2013 06:56 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
I got to it and yes everyone sang that as well.

It doesn't answer my question.


Did you not ever in your life have dreams of things that were not real but yet you thought that they were possibly true or could come true?

Not even as a young child?
ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 06:58 pm
@reasoning logic,
So you're saying neologist is dreaming the things s/he says are the truth. Brilliant.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:00 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
So you're saying neologist is dreaming the things s/he says are the truth. Brilliant.


Answer my question first.

Quote:
Did you not ever in your life have dreams of things that were not real but yet you thought that they were possibly true or could come true?

Not even as a young child?
ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:03 pm
@reasoning logic,
Nope. I'm still trying to get an answer to my question.
neologist
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:12 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
neologist wrote:
If Adam and Eve had obeyed, they would still be here and we would not have war and crime and sickness and death

how do you know that?
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died. If you believe God to be perfect as the Bible writers apparently believed, then they would not yet have died. The rest is concurrent.
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:12 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Nope.


Sunshine is this a nope in the way of saying that you have never experienced magical thinking? or should I say that you were similar to me and never in your life believed it?

If this is the case then I can somewhat see where you are coming from but if we were to look around us, "at least from my view point I have many love ones who believe in things I think are ridiculous but I still love them and see that it is the way their brains process the information that they take in "at least this is my guess.

Creative thinking is a very good thing when it is not harming others.


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ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:14 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died.


How do you know that? were you there?

Seriously. How can you make statements like that without being a witness?
neologist
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
I see you did not watch the little girl sing that short song?
Did your mom make you sing that song when she tried to raise you as a Witness?
I didn't think so.
Is this how you get back at your mom? How old are you, really?
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:22 pm
now that's funny
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:24 pm
I think you forgot to let ehBeth know that you were replying to her. Laughing
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neologist
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:29 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
neologist wrote:
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died.
How do you know that? were you there?

Seriously. How can you make statements like that without being a witness?
The only account I am familiar with is the one written in Genesis. Were it totally false, this conversation would be as jejune as RL's recent posts. In that account, should we care to look, we can find this statement attributed to the creator: "From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die. . . (Genesis 2:16,17)

We know they died because the only really old folks I know are Frank and CI; they say they are not old enough to have witnessed either.
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neologist
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 07:32 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth, @ fashionsty wrote:
now that's funny
And one of the most spot on comments in this thread to date
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neologist
 
  1  
Mon 6 May, 2013 10:17 pm
Interesting how the posts were juxtaposed after the departure of spam lady. Very Happy
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theMadOne
 
  -1  
Sat 13 Nov, 2021 02:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
He will BURN THEM IN HELLFIRE FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!

(Heh)
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sun 14 Nov, 2021 09:53 am
Anything can happen
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InfraBlue
 
  1  
Sun 14 Nov, 2021 11:18 am
@theMadOne,
The JWs don't believe in Hellfire.
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FredBquick
 
  1  
Tue 4 Nov, 2025 03:08 pm
As hell has enough biblical mention, and God has absolute justice, from which fairness is understood, there would be hell just with it being fair. How would it be? The seriousness of living life unresponsive to God is a rebellion against our Maker, who gives us our purpose here, that gets neglected, and it shouldn't be as this is so serious. We cannot please God with living our own life not responding to God, and we would go to a great extent contrary to our purpose from our Maker. Souls are meant to last, such which are not restored to God, which God provides for, last then just with the fair consequences coming to them. We might not know what that really is, but the biblically mentioned hell would be such, and it would be nothing pleasant or fun, but lasting misery, and it would correspond in fairness to the sins that there were throughout life, for any left to go there, without atonement God had made available through Christ, who was sent and has been among us. We cannot rightly judge God as God is the only right and fair God with uncompromised justice with having all the knowledge and truth. This means that without Christ who came as atonement, which is applied to repentant believers who come to him, there is no restoration to God with any Heaven after this life, and the alternative left within the uncompromised justice is what gets called hell that is being mentioned in the Bible.
 

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