If Adam and Eve had obeyed, they would still be here and we would not have war and crime and sickness and death
how do you know that?
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died. If you believe God to be perfect as the Bible writers apparently believed, then they would not yet have died. The rest is concurrent.
Sunshine is this a nope in the way of saying that you have never experienced magical thinking? or should I say that you were similar to me and never in your life believed it?
If this is the case then I can somewhat see where you are coming from but if we were to look around us, "at least from my view point I have many love ones who believe in things I think are ridiculous but I still love them and see that it is the way their brains process the information that they take in "at least this is my guess.
Creative thinking is a very good thing when it is not harming others.
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ehBeth
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Mon 6 May, 2013 07:14 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died.
How do you know that? were you there?
Seriously. How can you make statements like that without being a witness?
I see you did not watch the little girl sing that short song?
Did your mom make you sing that song when she tried to raise you as a Witness?
I didn't think so.
Is this how you get back at your mom? How old are you, really?
I think you forgot to let ehBeth know that you were replying to her.
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neologist
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Mon 6 May, 2013 07:29 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
neologist wrote:
They were told the consequence of their sin would be death. They ate. They died.
How do you know that? were you there?
Seriously. How can you make statements like that without being a witness?
The only account I am familiar with is the one written in Genesis. Were it totally false, this conversation would be as jejune as RL's recent posts. In that account, should we care to look, we can find this statement attributed to the creator: "From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die. . . (Genesis 2:16,17)
We know they died because the only really old folks I know are Frank and CI; they say they are not old enough to have witnessed either.
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neologist
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Mon 6 May, 2013 07:32 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth, @ fashionsty wrote:
now that's funny
And one of the most spot on comments in this thread to date
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neologist
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Mon 6 May, 2013 10:17 pm
Interesting how the posts were juxtaposed after the departure of spam lady.
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theMadOne
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Sat 13 Nov, 2021 02:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
He will BURN THEM IN HELLFIRE FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!
As hell has enough biblical mention, and God has absolute justice, from which fairness is understood, there would be hell just with it being fair. How would it be? The seriousness of living life unresponsive to God is a rebellion against our Maker, who gives us our purpose here, that gets neglected, and it shouldn't be as this is so serious. We cannot please God with living our own life not responding to God, and we would go to a great extent contrary to our purpose from our Maker. Souls are meant to last, such which are not restored to God, which God provides for, last then just with the fair consequences coming to them. We might not know what that really is, but the biblically mentioned hell would be such, and it would be nothing pleasant or fun, but lasting misery, and it would correspond in fairness to the sins that there were throughout life, for any left to go there, without atonement God had made available through Christ, who was sent and has been among us. We cannot rightly judge God as God is the only right and fair God with uncompromised justice with having all the knowledge and truth. This means that without Christ who came as atonement, which is applied to repentant believers who come to him, there is no restoration to God with any Heaven after this life, and the alternative left within the uncompromised justice is what gets called hell that is being mentioned in the Bible.