Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

WIFE-LY LOYALTY ?????

I would think it’s pretty common knowledge by now that gun owners
should stay the hell away from the anti-gun capitol of the US,
New York City. Mere unlicensed possession of a gun there is a serious
offense that could lead to very real jail time.

It seems the latest victim of the city’s overly strict gun laws is New
York Knicks point guard Raymond Felton.

Felton was arrested for illegally possessing a handgun within city limits.
The firearm in question is an FNH 5.7. Of course, the New York Post
couldn’t wait to write several paragraphs about the slightly
uncommon firearm,

Ariane Raymondo-Felton – who recently filed for divorce – brought
the Belgian-made pistol, an FNH 5.7 x 28mm handgun, to the 20th
Precinct on the Upper West Side, and the starting point guard later
turned himself in for questioning, sources said.

“The wife is saying they had four verbal altercations since July last year.
On the last one, he pointed a gun at her, loaded. It’s a bad ass gun,”
a law enforcement source told The Post.

The gun is popular with military and police forces worldwide, and can
be loaded with high-velocity ammo capable of piercing bullet-proof
vests and other forms of body armor.

Felton’s wife turned the gun in to police resulting in Felton’s arrest.
Felton had previously tried to give the firearm to his attorney, but
he declined to take possession of it, citing New York’s gun laws.

The claim about Felton pointing the gun at his wife is unsubstantiated
and he is not currently facing charges in relation to that allegation.
He is charged with criminal possession of a weapon in the second,
third and fourth-degrees.

In addition to violating New York’s ownership laws, Felton also
violated the state’s magazine capacity laws as he had the gun loaded
with a 20 round magazine.

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@OmSigDAVID,

The Constitution was pretty radical Dave.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Anecdotes are hopeless for framing policies Dave. They can be found to make any case. And the statements in them are not under oath or cross examined.

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Once again, for those unfortunate enough to have to live in or around NYC...

Everybody who was ever killed with any sort of a firearm prior to the US Civil War was killed with a black powder weapon, and those are generally available in the US on the same basis as slingshots or BB guns. They still work and the versions being made today are made with 2014 mettalurgy.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Black-Powder-Pistols-Muzzleloader-Pistols/BI.aspx

Typical:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=395865411

That wouldn't make much of a carry pistol but for home defense it would be awesome. Even if you missed an intruder with one of the lead balls, the air pollution would still kill him...

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GUN OWNER KILLS SELF DURING SAFETY DEMONSTRATION

A man from Independence Township, Michigan, accidentally shot himself to death on Monday while teaching his girlfriend about gun safety, the Oakland Press reports.

The 36-year-old man, whose name has not been released, was showing his girlfriend how his three handguns are safe when they aren’t loaded, according to the Detroit Free Press. He was attempting to demonstrate the safety of the handguns by holding them to his head and pulling the trigger.
The third gun fired, and the man was struck in the head. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Three children ages 7, 10, and 12 were in the home, but did not witness the shooting, according to reports. The man's girlfriend told authorities he had been drinking most of the day before the incident took place.

This isn't the first time a gun safety demonstration has gone wrong. In January 2013, 18-year-old Florida resident Alexander Xavier Shaw died doing a similar demonstration. Richard M. McLean, a 22-year-old from Michigan, died in a similar fashion in June 2012. Missouri resident James Looney, 40, was also teaching his girlfriend about gun safety when he shot himself in the head in September 2009.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/man-shoots-himself_n_4853983.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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@Frank Apisa,

Stupidity is a dangerous thing with or without firearms...

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

The Constitution was pretty radical Dave.

Yes, indeed, tho it was ante-dated by the right to KABA.

David

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Anecdotes are hopeless for framing policies Dave.
They can be found to make any case.
And the statements in them are not under oath or cross examined.

U can learn from the experience of others, Spendius.
That can be less painful than learning from your own experience.
For instance, I need not marry to ascertain whether wives
will betray and endeavor to injure their husbands (or ex-husbands).

Its safer to keep it a spectator sport.

David

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

GUN OWNER KILLS SELF DURING SAFETY DEMONSTRATION

U present that as if to imply
that danger is unique to guns. Guys got killed many different ways
long b4 guns were invented, and since, but how many of THEM do u mention???????

How many car collisions did u complain of?? How many drownings??
How many fatal beatings received your vocal attention ?
When u complain about guns u r REALLY objecting to FREEDOM.

U pick out guns because u wanna promote a state of HELPLESSNESS
in the citizens like Reginald Denny and Kitty Genovese
such that thay shud depend for their LIVES
upon the collective and its low life hireling, government.

Supporters of gun control (that is: victim disarmament)
do so out of their authoritarian lust.
To supporters of gun control, FREEDOM is ANATHEMA.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

More people die per year in the hospitals from either male-practice or from infections they receive while in the hospital. It is thought to be somewhere between 100,000 to almost 400,000. It depends on who you ask. That is well over 3x as many people as who are killed by guns and that is off of the low # of hospital deaths. It is more dangerous to be in the hospital then it is to own a gun.

Here is a nice impartial article from NPR.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/09/20/224507654/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-u-s-hospitals

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Stupidity is a dangerous thing with or without firearms...

Indeed it is. And for gun safety demonstration purposes...stupidity is particularly dangerous.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
GUN OWNER KILLS SELF DURING SAFETY DEMONSTRATION
U present that as if to imply
that danger is unique to guns.
David

No I didn't, David.

I presented it the same way...and with much the same kind of intentions...as you present so many newspaper accounts here in this thread.

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@Frank Apisa,

U mean that u presented it to EXPAND and to ENLARGE FREEDOM?????

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

U mean that u presented it to EXPAND and to ENLARGE FREEDOM?????

Yup! Although my view of enlarging and expanding freedom probably differs from yours, David.

Allowing people to drive as fast; as recklessly and with no prohibitions as to yielding...IS NOT expanding and enlarging freedom...whether you can finally grasp that or not.

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@Frank Apisa,

That's a false equivalence.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

That's a false equivalence.

Not for me it isn't. And for you, I suspect it is less a "false equivalence"...than it is an uncomfortable one.

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@Frank Apisa,

Your answer is discrimination (from government)
as to WHO can defend his own life. (Screw "equal protection of the laws" says U.)

The USSC has held that government cannot Constitutionally
discriminate even concerning who has to sit WHERE on a bus for a few minutes.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your answer is discrimination (from government)
as to WHO can defend his own life. (Screw "equal protection of the laws" says U.)

Not my answer at all, David. You are usually more observant and intelligent than this.

Have I ever said anything about refusing people the right to protect themselves...or to own a gun? (HINT: Never!)

QUESTION (actually, a few): Do I own a gun, David? If you guess "yes" is it an automatic or a revolver? If you guess "revolver"...what caliber?

Quote:

The USSC has held that government cannot Constitutionally
discriminate even concerning who has to sit WHERE on a bus for a few minutes.

And that has to do with me or my posts how????

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your answer is discrimination (from government)
as to WHO can defend his own life. (Screw "equal protection of the laws" says U.)

Not my answer at all, David. You are usually more observant and intelligent than this.

Have I ever said anything about refusing people the right to protect themselves...or to own a gun? (HINT: Never!)

QUESTION (actually, a few): Do I own a gun, David? If you guess "yes" is it an automatic or a revolver? If you guess "revolver"...what caliber?

Quote:

The USSC has held that government cannot Constitutionally
discriminate even concerning who has to sit WHERE on a bus for a few minutes.

And that has to do with me or my posts how????

Do u favor BACKGROUND CHECKS????
In order to discriminate qua WHO can carry guns
in compliance with gun control statutes???

In NY, gun control was instituted around 1911 because the Irish
wanted to disarm the Italians.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your answer is discrimination (from government)
as to WHO can defend his own life. (Screw "equal protection of the laws" says U.)

Not my answer at all, David. You are usually more observant and intelligent than this.

Have I ever said anything about refusing people the right to protect themselves...or to own a gun? (HINT: Never!)

QUESTION (actually, a few): Do I own a gun, David? If you guess "yes" is it an automatic or a revolver? If you guess "revolver"...what caliber?

Quote:

The USSC has held that government cannot Constitutionally
discriminate even concerning who has to sit WHERE on a bus for a few minutes.

And that has to do with me or my posts how????

Do u favor BACKGROUND CHECKS????

ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY...with no doubt whatsoever.

And anyone who doesn't...should not be allowed to own a gun, because that person is not a reasonable person.

Oh...yeah...being reasonable is one of the criteria I would establish for owning a gun. I do not consider the right to own a gun to be inviolabe or sacrosanct.

Quote:

In order to discriminate qua WHO can carry guns
in compliance with gun control statutes???

I see the question marks...but I do not understand the question...if there is one.

Quote:

In NY, gun control was instituted around 1911 because the Irish
wanted to disarm the Italians.

And you included this why?

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