Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

David likes a hot warm gun in his hand,

it takes his shallow mind off his tiny penis

RexRed wrote:

I 'm back.
The children whose death shud be stopped
shud be well armed in their own defense,
at the earliest feasible age, as I armed myself at age 8.
Thay shud be trained in school in effective, efficient defensive gunnery
and in safe gun handling practices and repeatedly drilled over and over.
David

OmSigDavid said: @RF- The authoritarians wud like u to believe
that there were no murders nor other violent felonies before
guns were invented. Maybe Julius Caesar was never assassinated ??

OmSigDavid said: @RF- The authoritarians wud like u to believe
that there were no murders nor other violent felonies before
guns were invented. Maybe Julius Caesar was never assassinated ??

Ha ha yes; even if guns were banned,
people would simply switch to using clubs, swords and knives to kill each other..

Great then you don't mind trading in your guns for knives instead
if they are the same thing...

If you answer no then you know your argument is disingenuous
and you also have no values to post something you know is false...

RexRed wrote:

I 'm back.
The children whose death shud be stopped
shud be well armed in their own defense,
at the earliest feasible age, as I armed myself at age 8.
Thay shud be trained in school in effective, efficient defensive gunnery
and in safe gun handling practices and repeatedly drilled over and over.
David

Are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...
and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year olders were given guns to carry???

C'mon, David. You actually make some decent points for your side of this issue at times...
but this is so far over the top, I am astonished you ever posted it.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:

I 'm back.
The children whose death shud be stopped
shud be well armed in their own defense,
at the earliest feasible age, as I armed myself at age 8.
Thay shud be trained in school in effective, efficient defensive gunnery
and in safe gun handling practices and repeatedly drilled over and over.
David

Frank Apisa wrote:

Are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...
and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year olders were given guns to carry???

That is what the education and training are for.
Do u believe in automobile driver 's ed.? U bet your life.

Frank Apisa wrote:

C'mon, David. You actually make some decent points for your side of this issue at times...
but this is so far over the top, I am astonished you ever posted it.

I believe in EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
In 1956 the USSC declared in Browder v. Gayle that government
discrimination regarding a few moments of seating on a public bus
was an intolerable violation of a citizen's (Rosa Parks's)
Constitutional Right to EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
An ordinary citizen, not just an elevated elite; this addresses
what I call the Saints and Angels interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, to wit:
THE 2nd AMENDMENT WAS NOT ENACTED ONLY TO PROTECT
THE SAINTS and ANGELS OF AMERICA: EVERYONE HAS AN EQUAL RIGHT, EQUAL RIGHT,
EQUAL RIGHT TO DEFEND HIS OR HER LIFE from predatory violence.
When 7 year old Noah Yates was being dragged to his death in Andrea 's bathtub,
I wish he 'd been lucky enuf to snatch up a gun from somewhere. He NEEDED it.

Wud u have told him NO!, Frank? "C'mon, Noah get to the tub; u dont need guns; TOO YOUNG!"??
U 'd have told him to keep his hands OFF of any guns and let her drag him
to the bathtub. He did. The supporters of gun control got their wish:
the victims were un-armed. The predator survived intact. Congratulations!
David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:

I 'm back.
The children whose death shud be stopped
shud be well armed in their own defense,
at the earliest feasible age, as I armed myself at age 8.
Thay shud be trained in school in effective, efficient defensive gunnery
and in safe gun handling practices and repeatedly drilled over and over.
David

Frank Apisa wrote:

Are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...
and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year olders were given guns to carry???

That is what the education and training are for.
Do u believe in automobile driver 's ed.? U bet your life.

So tell me, David, are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all of our 8 year-olders were given guns to carry?

Quote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

C'mon, David. You actually make some decent points for your side of this issue at times...
but this is so far over the top, I am astonished you ever posted it.

I believe in EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
In 1956 the USSC declared in Browder v. Gayle that government
discrimination regarding a few moments of seating on a public bus
was an intolerable violation of a citizen's (Rosa Parks's)
Constitutional Right to EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
An ordinary citizen, not just an elevated elite; this addresses
what I call the Saints and Angels interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, to wit:
THE 2nd AMENDMENT WAS NOT ENACTED ONLY TO PROTECT
THE SAINTS and ANGELS OF AMERICA: EVERYONE HAS AN EQUAL RIGHT, EQUAL RIGHT,
EQUAL RIGHT TO DEFEND HIS OR HER LIFE from predatory violence.
When 7 year old Noah Yates was being dragged to his death in Andrea 's bathtub,
I wish he 'd been lucky enuf to snatch up a gun from somewhere. He NEEDED it.

Wud u have told him NO!, Frank? "C'mon, Noah get to the tub; u dont need guns; TOO YOUNG!"??
U 'd have told him to keep his hands OFF of any guns and let her drag him
to the bathtub. He did. The supporters of gun control got their wish:
the victims were un-armed. The predator survived intact. Congratulations!
David

Ummm...perhaps you did not fully understand the question, David.

Allow me to re-word it:

Are you actually serious in trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year-olders were given guns to carry???

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:

I 'm back.
The children whose death shud be stopped
shud be well armed in their own defense,
at the earliest feasible age, as I armed myself at age 8.
Thay shud be trained in school in effective, efficient defensive gunnery
and in safe gun handling practices and repeatedly drilled over and over.
David

Frank Apisa wrote:

Are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...
and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year olders were given guns to carry???

That is what the education and training are for.
Do u believe in automobile driver 's ed.? U bet your life.

So tell me, David, are you actually trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all of our 8 year-olders were given guns to carry?

Quote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

C'mon, David. You actually make some decent points for your side of this issue at times...
but this is so far over the top, I am astonished you ever posted it.

I believe in EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
In 1956 the USSC declared in Browder v. Gayle that government
discrimination regarding a few moments of seating on a public bus
was an intolerable violation of a citizen's (Rosa Parks's)
Constitutional Right to EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.
An ordinary citizen, not just an elevated elite; this addresses
what I call the Saints and Angels interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, to wit:
THE 2nd AMENDMENT WAS NOT ENACTED ONLY TO PROTECT
THE SAINTS and ANGELS OF AMERICA: EVERYONE HAS AN EQUAL RIGHT, EQUAL RIGHT,
EQUAL RIGHT TO DEFEND HIS OR HER LIFE from predatory violence.
When 7 year old Noah Yates was being dragged to his death in Andrea 's bathtub,
I wish he 'd been lucky enuf to snatch up a gun from somewhere. He NEEDED it.

Wud u have told him NO!, Frank? "C'mon, Noah get to the tub; u dont need guns; TOO YOUNG!"??
U 'd have told him to keep his hands OFF of any guns and let her drag him
to the bathtub. He did. The supporters of gun control got their wish:
the victims were un-armed. The predator survived intact. Congratulations!
David

Ummm...perhaps you did not fully understand the question, David.

Allow me to re-word it:

Are you actually serious in trying to sell the idea that America would be a safer country...and have less accidental and on-purpose shootings if all
of our 8 year-olders were given guns to carry???

OK. I thawt that I had successfully answered your questions,
but I 'll try to be more specific and more explicit:

1. Yes. I believe that sufficient education and repeated training
in competent gunnery practices, drilled over and over and over
will result in fewer accidents because of the effectiveness
of those inculcated safety measures.

2. In regard to intentional shootings:
I believe that criminals will know from experience
and observation of their fellows that their pursuit of violence
is un-safe for them and leads to an early grave. (Q.V. Travon Martin case.)
I believe that will have the effect of reducing the incidence
of violent felony, thereby obviating violent defense therefrom.

If u deem my reply to be in any way lacking,
then please bring that to my attention and I will address your concerns.
David

1. Yes. I believe that sufficient education and repeated training
in competent gunnery practices, drilled over and over and over
will result in fewer accidents because of the effectiveness
of those inculcated safety measures.

Why are you ignoring the use of education when it comes to firearms? You are completely by-passing this portion of what he said and what he believes.

Can I, in good conscience, try to violate the rights of 8 year olds,
which I enjoyed, treasured and valued myself at that age and up??

Wud I be a hypocrit?

That reminds me of anti-gun freedom politicians
like Sen. Diane Feinstein who carry their own defensive guns.

David

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OmSigDavid said: @RF- The authoritarians wud like u to believe
that there were no murders nor other violent felonies before
guns were invented. Maybe Julius Caesar was never assassinated ??

Ha ha yes; even if guns were banned, people would simply switch to using clubs, swords and knives to kill each other..

Whether someone needs a tool
depends on whether a job arises, whatever your age is.


When I was around 1O, give or take,
I had some dogs threaten me in the streets.
Thay did not fully attack and I did not fully shoot them,
but u cannot always know what is gonna happen. It pays to be prepared.


David