Lusatian wrote:
A poor quadreplegic old man in a wheelchair - Then following that rationale, should Osama Bin Laden become paralyzed from his ailments and necessitate a wheelchair he should become automatically absolved of his actions.
Who knows, perhaps had Hitler survived the war, but been a quadreplegic he should have escaped justice.
Nope. You miss the point entirely, his handicapped status is not an appeal to pity. I've no pity for him.
It is a comment on the fact that he is only a symbolic figure. The assasinations should not be used for symbolic purposes.
If he was a legitimate threat, and killing him would improve Israeli security I'd be all for it.
But few could mount an argument that this will do anything to improve Israeli security.
If they wanted to bring him to justics they should have, but this assasination is a typical Israeli move to heep the heat high and keep American pressure for negotiations away.
I have done my homework. And am confident that I know as much and probably more about this than do you, despite your own confidence in theis regard.
Quote:Find out how many innocents have been killed by Hamas bombs. Yassin founded Hamas, led Hamas for almost 2 decades, then became its inspirational leader (don't be fooled by the pleasantry of the word inspirational). And you still defend him?
You exhibit the simple mindset wherein criticism of Israeli acts must be equated with support or defense of him.
I have no support for him, and have no remorse about his death.
This does not mean I do not condemn Israel's act as one calculated to avoid conflict resolution.
Want to bring a guy to justice? Arrest him.
Want to prevent an immediate threat? Use a targeted killing/assasination (there needs to be a clear danger posed by the individual to neglect any attempt to detain and move straight to adventurous strikes).
What I do not support is Israel's use of assasination to prolong the conflict and stall a resolution in which they'd have to cease to expand.
This has nothing to do with sympathy or defense of the old fool.
Quote:Same question Craven. Same question, if Osama loses operative functions in five years after being holed up in caves we should, by your reasoning, allow him to live in peace. "Oh, don't touch him, he's leaving his Mosque after prayer."
No, and I've answered your childish line of questioning already.
Quote:And, please "Israeli expansion", you don't believe that, do you?
Of course I do. Look at a map, they are expanding. Any of us have access to the satellite imagery to prove this.
They have strong political parties that make no secret whatsoever of their desire for greater Isreal and to "transfer"/ethnically cleanse the area.
Lusatian, I fear it is you who must do your homework. I can cite Israel's ruling party stating intent to continue to expand.
Quote:Israel's territory has not increased an inch in 40 years.
Bullshit. Again, you need to do your homework.
Quote:The last time they "expanded" was after they were attacked by surprise by a united Arab coalition.
Bullshit, they are expanding daily with strategic settlement and the longer they can stall resolution the better their chances of keeping them (e.g. building fences to include them).
Quote: Israel has never unilaterally invaded its neighbors.
This is arguable. Eminently arguable.
Quote:They have kept hard-fought ground, with the claim that this terrain protects them militarily (i.e. Golan Heights, West Bank). The country is tiny, how on earth can you argue expansion?
Because, it has expanded.
The security excuse is weak, by that reasoning any small nation has a right to their neighbours land with teh only criteria being conflict with them.
Moves such as this one are calculated for teh specific purpose of keeping the tension going.
Quote:(By the way, you do know that Israel is planning to withdraw from the Gaza Strip).
I applaud many of Sharon's bold moves. I continue to hope that he stands down his zealots who openly wish for expansion and who oppose anything that would hinder it (even at the cost of ISraeli security).
I support unilateral withdrawal. I support the sane Israelis.
What I don't support is simple-minded adventurism based more on vengance than conflict resolution.
What I don't support is the simple-minded logic you exhibit in which criticism of the timing and method of an Israeli move is equated to support for terrorism.
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