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Justice Scalia: Voting Rights Act Provision a 'Perpetuation of Racial Entitlement'

 
 
Lola
 
Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2013 08:42 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/scalia-voting-rights-act-racial-entitlement-supreme-court-vra-2013-2

Can you believe this? I guess I can from Scalia......but even for him, it's amazing in it's arrogance. Someone said that by this statement, Scalia just proved the continuing need for the Voting Rights Act. I agree.

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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:33 am
@Lola,
Did Scalia or any of the other conservatives ever denounce Jim Crow as "racial entitlement"? Did conservatives ever denounce even the cruelest aspects of Jim Crow? Well, I think we know the answer to that question. Their past record on Jim Crow reveals their current statements on issues such as this one to be hypocritical to the extreme.

By the way, I'm not speaking as a progressive here. I'm ideologically independent and happen to be conservative on some other issues. In other words, I'm not following a party line. I'm calling it for what it is. I grew up under Jim Crow and saw just how evil it was. Conservatives never had any problem with it! In fact, they defended it!

Scalia and the other jerks have reminded me why I never became a conservative.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 07:35 am
@Lola,
Scalia will probably go down in history as one of the most damaging influences ever on our country.

There was a time I use to like him because of his personality and wit...but I consider him lower than Darth Cheney.

If he had any conscience or love of country, he would do what Pope Benedict is doing today.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 09:14 am
I suspect I've been thumbed down by "progressives." How hilarious! I actually agree with them on an issue (and rather strongly, too); but they still give me thumbs down. I'm not at all surprised. In fact, I expected it. It's purely in spite. Too bad they don't have enough courage to send me PMs, although I wouldn't read them at this point. Pathetic, but thanks for confirming my low opinion of you. Smile
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 09:56 am
@wmwcjr,
Hey now, I fit that category and I thumbed you up.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 10:04 am
@Lola,
Agree how dare the poor and the blacks and the Latins think that they should not be blocked from voting as must as possible.
Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 11:40 am
@wmwcjr,
Hi wmwcjr, I don't know who thumbed you down. I thumbed you up just now so if someone else will do the same, we'll be even. I don't really understand the thumbs up and down. It seems silly to me. But in any case, you're welcome to write whatever you think on my pages.

I agree with you about Scalia. He's scum. It's dismaying to me that such an opinion can be stated by a Justice of the scotus. I think we have made more progress than this. But if he feels comfortable to state such an outrageous opinion, how tenuous is that progress? Frightening.
Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 11:42 am
@BillRM,
Right BillRM. It seems that if both conservatives and progressives can agree on this point, I feel less worried about our future. Thanks for your comment.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 01:49 pm
@Lola,
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Right BillRM. It seems that if both conservatives and progressives can agree on this point, I feel less worried about our future. Thanks for your comment.


LOL, I can only wonder what label you are placing on me as other then being one hell of a strong second amendment supporter I tend to be liberal and vote democrat including both times for Obama.

Of course one simple label does not apply well to a lot of people.
Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 01:56 pm
@BillRM,
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LOL, I can only wonder what label you are placing on me as other then being one hell of a strong second amendment supporter I tend to be liberal and vote democrat including both times for Obama.

Gee, I must have gotten you mixed up with someone else.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:21 pm
Absolutely, once the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified what with its Racial Entitlement for the Negros, everything went to hell in a handbasket!
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:31 pm
Sonia Sotomayor made the great retort to Scalia with the following question. She asked how voting rights are racial entitlements. There was no valid reply to this.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Scalia will probably go down in history as one of the most damaging influences ever on our country.

There was a time I use to like him because of his personality and wit...but I consider him lower than Darth Cheney.

If he had any conscience or love of country, he would do what Pope Benedict is doing today.


I frequently read about his alleged intelligence. I fail to see much, if any, intelligence in his decisions and questioning. I think all his major decisions will eventually be reversed.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:48 pm
@Lola,
I've been doing the same as you, Lola -- 'up-thumbing' where there's no reason for a negative vote. But I think we need more like-minded people helping us out here.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 02:59 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Absolutely, once the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified what with its Racial Entitlement for the Negros, everything went to hell in a handbasket!


In my opinion Justice Scalia could had been one of a signer of the Drew Scott decision see below.



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Text of part of the SC Dred Scott ruling in 1857



The words "people of the United States" and "citizens" are synonymous terms, and mean the same thing. They both describe the political body who ... form the sovereignty, and who hold the power and conduct the Government through their representatives.... The question before us is, whether the class of persons described in the plea in abatement [people of Aftican ancestry] compose a portion of this people, and are constituent members of this sovereignty? We think they are not, and that they are not included, and were not intended to be included, under the word "citizens" in the Constitution, and can therefore claim none of the rights and privileges which that instrument provides for and secures to citizens of the United States. On the contrary, they were at that time considered as a subordinate and inferior class of beings, who had been subjugated by the dominant race, and, whether emancipated or not, yet remained subject to their authority, and had no rights or privileges but such as those who held the power and the Government might choose to grant them.

The court think the affirmative of these propositions cannot be maintained. And if it cannot, [Dred Scott] could not be a citizen of the State of Missouri, within the meaning of the Constitution of the United States, and, consequently, was not entitled to sue in its courts.
It is true, every person, and every class and description of persons, who were at the time of the adoption of the Constitution recognized as citizens in the several States, became also citizens of this new political body; but none other; it was formed by them, and for them and their posterity, but for no one else. And the personal rights and privileges guarantied to citizens of this new sovereignty were intended to embrace those only who were then members of the several State communities, or who should afterwards by birthright or otherwise become members, according to the provisions of the Constitution and the principles on which it was founded....


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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 03:03 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
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I've been doing the same as you, Lola -- 'up-thumbing' where there's no reason for a negative vote. But I think we need more like-minded people helping us out here.


On this thread at least it seem that there is a 100 percent agreement concerning Scalia comment so in relationship to this thread there are so far no unlike-minded people.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 03:09 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
I've mentioned this before...but I guess it bears repeating:

I never "thumb up" or "thumb down" any comments. (May twice over the many years I have "thumb up"...just because the issue was being discussed.

I think the "thumb" device is worthless...since there is no set standard for what it means; apparently some rate for content...and some just because of like or dislike of the poster.

We probably all would be better off to abandon the practice of rating other people's posts.

In any case, to get worked up over the number or direction of the ratings is not worth the trouble.
Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 04:05 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
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I've been doing the same as you, Lola -- 'up-thumbing' where there's no reason for a negative vote. But I think we need more like-minded people helping us out here.


I agree Andrei. I got the idea from you. Thanks.

Come on you other thumb uppers. Justice is at stake.
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Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 04:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
agree Frank
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Lola
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2013 04:09 pm
@BillRM,
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On this thread at least it seem that there is a 100 percent agreement concerning Scalia comment so in relationship to this thread there are so far no unlike-minded people.

Yes, Bill. For this thread, agreement. Is this a first for A2K?
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