Re: reasoning logic (Post 5261609)
RL You are a receptive respondent. I have no problem expanding my interpretation of philosophical trends for your benefit and intelligent criticism As for Frank's "understanding", we've all been waiting ten years or more for evidence of it !
We await that "thinking" with great anticipation !
Quote:I acknowledge that I am not able to understand exactly what you mean here, but I can say this: I almost NEVER am attempting to “prove” or “disprove” anything when it comes to questions like REALITY. I readily acknowledge that I do not know what the REALITY is…so I am not a dualist or a non-dualist. I DO NOT KNOW…and either position could be the REALITY…and both could easily be wrong.I simply meant it as a demonstration that by "merely guessing" we can in a sense disprove dualism of truth values.
Quote:If you assume dualism it leads you to non-dualism.
I’ll listen to the argument for that. I cannot accept it as an assertion.
The assertion was made by mathematicians (number theorists). They made this assumption. That assumption after many centuries of deduction which will require much education regarding mathematics and number theory led to a theorem by Kurt Godel. He used the assumption to prove that the assumption leads to unknowable truth values. He proved that within such a system (that makes the dualist assumption), there are "things" that are basically neither wholly "true" nor wholly "false". Dualism was used to disprove absolute dualism.
[you should like this Frank, it should resonate with you]
Quote:Ditto, above.If you assume non-dualism....stop.
Quote:For you to suggest that the non-dualism assumption is accurate…leaves me cold. You are begging the question here.But the non-dualism pre-assumption glosses over a lot of structure. It is accurate but not precise.
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5261656)
No Frank, you don't do it "freely" !
You have a vested interest in "ignoring" the plethora of arguments against "naive realism" because they would destroy your simplistic view of "guessing" on which you have staked your intellectual integrity.
You are a guesser...who presents his guesses as facts.
I never get detention Razz
Guess the teacher likes me better. Wink
Never got detention? LOL A teacher hit my wrist with a ruler....
Re: fresco (Post 5261666)
Frank's "guessing" is set in stone forever, and nobody will change his mind. No amount of logic will pursuade him to change his idea about "guessing."
We've all been through that "merry-go-round" with Frank - for many years.
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5261687)
Enjoy yourself Frank
We enjoy you too!