@igm,
Quote:Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5256660)
Just for you Frank, I wouldn't do this for everyone... when you see any of my posts contain the word 'believe' then 'imagine' I've written 'guess'... hope this helps?
Igm, I suspect I am so used to conceiving of "I believe" comments as actually being "I guess...or estimate"...that I do it automatically for everyone. But I appreciate your mentioning what you did.
My terse comment about your, “I believe the problem arises when something refers to itself", though, really had to do with the self-reference aspect of the comment. I stressed the “I believe” part because that seems to be essential to the nature of the self-reference.
It seems to me that all opinions (particularly those expressed as “beliefs”) seem to be a form of “referring to itself.”
It certainly differs from “this sentence is false”…or “there is no ultimate reality”…but arguably, there is a relationship. I wonder...if you are correct, are they all meaningless?
What is your opinion on this?