Churches Given Anti-Obama Message on Sunday Before Election

That is nonsense - especially it's not Catholic belief. See: c. CIC 751, c. 1364 § 1 CIC.

Remember that when Miller responds to Foofie, she is talking to herself. Whether she presents as Foofie, or as Miller, she's pig ignorant.

It's about time!

Those are the teachings of the Catholic Church. Not mine.

I'm not a Catholic, so that reference means nothing to me.

I gather that a lot of things mean nothing to you.

why would you try and argue something you know nothing about?

jaysus...

It refers to the relevant paragraphs of the Canon Law.

Catholic Bishops decreed that several Archdiocese present "Vote Your Catholic VAlues". As a result, the Catholic Vote for Obama was split among those that are frequent attenders of church v "lapsed and occasional services" Catholics. Obama took the latter and not the former

it's like an enigma, wrapped in a puzzle, surrounded by a mystery

It's roughly similar to the patriotic infatuation or intoxication Rockie which is another holdover from the past and more or less irrelevant in a globalised economy of interconnected markets, exchange rates, information dispersal, the UN and dependence on trade and supplies of raw materials.

It has the authentic stamp of a provincial custom. Conservative to the core. Like Morris dancing in Somerset.

so are you for it, against it, or just fond of throwing a bunch of frilly verbiage at it?

It depends on which side of the bed I get out of. My post took no position on such material facts of life.

If people wish to milk the patriotic udder and others cheer them to the echo it has nothing to do with me. I just observe.

and pontificate.

don't forget the whipped cream on your donut...

I do, of course, recognise that categorising the point I made as "frilly verbiage" and pontification avoids the obvious necessity of responding to it in a passably grown up manner. I also recognise how easy such responses are to make and the irresistible temptations they offer.

Alas, they do not address the point. The material facts are that we do exist now in a globalised economy of interconnected markets, exchange rates, information dispersal, the UN and dependence on trade and supplies of raw materials. In view of those obvious facts rabid patriotism is nothing but a comforting spiritual holdover from ancient times.

Come on kids; play nice.

We can't watch you all the time.

I believe the subject was catholic brainwashing as described by miller, a non-catholic whiny person.

what did you think it was?

Not quite Rocky. The subject was how sad one particular spiritual holdover from ancient times is.

Picking and choosing which such holdovers are sad is not something I am prepared to engage in. It smacks of prejudice, bigotry, intolerance and lack of logical balance.

Interesting about the federal court ruling, wandeljw.
I was offline for a couple of days, just catching up on this thread. Lots of good points being made. Also thanks to JPB for her link with clarification of what constitutes breach of church state roles a few pages back.
http://able2know.org/topic/201176-3#post-5157427

I think somewhere along the line, somebody payed you by the word.

just sayin'...

cheerio, I gotta crawl for more tea now.

Well, of course:

Dicitur haeresis, pertinax, post receptum baptismum, alicuius veritatis divina et catholica credendae denegatio, aut de eadem pertinax dubitatio; apostasia, fidei christianae ex toto repudiatio; schisma, subiectionis Summo Pontifici aut communionis cum Ecclesiae membris eidem subditis detrectatio.