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Death on Demand

 
 
Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 12:57 pm
As a discussion point.
In a Altruistic Democracy.
A person should not be able to require that society put him to death at his command.
A person should not be under pressure to ask for termination of his life.
A person is not simply ‘free’.
A medical – ethics committee [which hospitals virtually have] should decide on the virtue of a person’s ‘wishes’ and his best treatment.
Symptoms can be relieved, whether physical or mental, to a obvious extreme.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 02:04 pm
@RW Standing,
In a Altruistic Democracy.
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A person should not be able to require that society put him to death at his command.
Why not
Sounds contradictory. Altruism suggests conforming to the patient’s wish

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A person should not be under pressure to ask for termination of his life.
This one on the other hand seems quite obvious

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A person is not simply ‘free’.
But this one does sound contradictory. You’d think altruism would encourage the feeling of freedom

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A medical – ethics committee [which hospitals virtually have] should decide on the virtue of a person’s ‘wishes’ and his best treatment.
Seems reasonable assuming merely advisory but would the committee of a Catholic hospital for instance agree with that of one non-aligned

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Symptoms can be relieved, whether physical or mental, to a obvious extreme.
You might reword this for the benefit of the Average Clod (me). But if you mean for instance that risky treatment might be required for extreme pain then I’d agree
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imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:06 am
@RW Standing,
the point is what freedom must b true before exercising it

true freedom is truth value, so objective existence in absolute positive terms

what really exist then is always positive fact absolutely, so what kills is never what exist so never true, what kills is freedom of truth in relative ways

then meaning to exterminate ur life by the hands of others is meaning being careless about true existence and objective values that u r necessarily obliged to respect being relatively a self of that absolute fact

u dont see how ugly u appear by insisting on ur beauty that u believe creating out of that relative freedom from knowing smthg being true

it is amazing that different reaction we have in knowing same facts

for u, knowing that smthg is right gives u kind of wings to explore what u always like, thinking that since right exist then u should seek how to b right too starting from what u like preferably being right about

for me, knowing that smthg is right gives me a kind of obligation sense to value its right in my space, to confirm rights all the ways by clarifying how then only rights exist

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imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:25 am
it ultimately says the truth of relativity is absolute fact too about existence, how intelligence can b stupid and how true can b a liar too

u kind think when u know smthg about true existence, that since true existence is out of freedom constancies result as objective fact value, then u can pretend not knowing any since it is all of infinite different freedom present so noone would ever notice that u saw or didnt or ask u for obligations towards free perspectives u had

this is when intelligence become stupidity whe it exists

to exist requires other qualities then intelligence or truth or even free wills

other qualities to what is already there through its exclusive valueable forms

true intelligence is intelligent existence as stable fact which know that if smthg exist then its freedom is more present then it, denyin its existence to seek doing an own alike is making an ennemy out of what exist that would always chase u and deny ur right to pretend anything

of course infinite is by definition superior abstract existence, but it is the exclusive present finite always, u dont get that bc u never act present by recognizing smthg else existing really, while u keep jumping to profit from infos as if u can b a part of it relatively before meaning being it all
imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:58 am
@imans,
that is how death is right but killing is wrong

the free existing fact out of realizing smthg true can die of course it doesnt have any consequence on true existence while its freedom of self existing right is all to itself so it could mean dying as nothing choice

but killing pains tortures screams yells this is all for wrong pushin evil life to b all, so forcing too the rights to look as wrong
asking me for instance to kill u is that clear mascarad of **** that goes to extreme absurdity in order to get a wrong move of me so it can built upon smthg being all
as if the only not wrong left is me, so all wrong which are fully living they want me wrong to b all
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 03:34 am
u shitty liar forever infinite truths freedom since forever being true existence as now...there is nothing wrong absolute rights freedom is once now forever right no matter u dog like or not cause u gonna die without killing truths being free. U brain wash since baby n cannot think truths being right cause you eyes inside the sand of desert like chicken dreams forever revenge from lies u believe right...now go f*** chinese forum other side of world with u false word visions !... Laughing

PS Comic relief might get him out hopefully...
Atom Blitzer
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 03:57 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Ohhhh, so that's how you write like that.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 07:25 am
@RW Standing,
What's an altruistic democracy?

As I see it, people can be either altruistic or selfish (most people are probably a mix). But a democracy between selfish people isn't a 'selfish democracy'. Also, introducing 'altruistic democracy' to a bunch of selfish c**ts won't make it truly altruistic.
Even a 'capitalistic democracy' isn't really a democracy. It's faceless fascism where money rules, and therefore, those who have the most money rule.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 09:57 am
@RW Standing,
Death on Demand:
http://i48.tinypic.com/ka22iq.jpg
Not on Time Warner, Comcast, Dish Network, or satellite dish....
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 11:07 am
@Atom Blitzer,
...forever burn in hell u shitty liar u, I writes like I likes ! Verstanden ? Wink

imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 11:34 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
stop trying to sound joking with what i say or mean, of course it sounds pathetic from what i cant gather so much alone to mean the serious of infinite facts existing and such infinite too rights abuse, in one sentence being true i can but not much
although it doesnt matter what i say at all, while u focus on it as if it is the event u r the joke clearly to come

wat i say is pathetic for wat is said of my mortal miserable condition in being, but the object of my expressions concern truth freedom which is noone but the exclusive existence fact present
it is serious, ur gods are big yes to sound convincing enough so u could freel safe by being wron as a liar u choose to b, ur gods are real yes real **** existing they are a lot shittiest impossible to picture or to stand a second sight
that is real infinite hole always more **** while different fresh free smell ready to move, that is how u imitate truth, mirrors u say hen, yep u know what u r talking about, ****

but guess wat u cant guess, so im saying at the end only what is true stand more then a second, so prepare urself it is the end now

Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 11:42 am
@imans,
Hi Monkey want a banana ? Laughing
imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:05 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
im a monchey since when?? since u decided to advocate jesus upon ur head from the start of witnessing worse crime against a true person

shitty **** urself with ur dirty mimics and insistence to sell ur ****

what is said clearly out of no being that justify it, is clearly a true free existing fact always while watever i speak fast demonstrate the constant i am alone

it doesnt matter what u want to sound knowing shitty, animals are never existing they are possessed totally, as soon as u have a human body then u become else by what that head offer to b true and since truth is the exclusive present fact so any still perspective is the drive to b present

and ur jesus is a **** not a monckey, and when all is **** but any is not **** necessarily so ur jesus is never a subject that is why he loves to b spoken about and never do any by himself nor that he cares for appearing being any he is not, on the contrary like **** he enjoys pretending inferiority to gain inferiors attention to his powers as well as to gain the end life by claiming being the first living
**** u and him as well as all ur illuminati and muslims ****
**** for eternities all and ur gods and all gods wat do i care when i have nothing but disgust in havin to know that u r still there
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:13 pm
@imans,
Can 2 bananas help ? You are getting expensive... Laughing
imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:36 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
i dont use foods for symbolic realisations of means u show the rat u r it is the only animal which is aware of what he is doing and free from conditions life, there is no god that could accept to b rat existence as the way of his life

but u need any food to mean the most intelligent of u, shitty i dont use either symbols i deal clearly with real, so im gonna give u a taste of my penis it is sizeless compared to ur bananas, but with it instead of ******* like u do chicken rats always meaning to keep some food sources aside, i kill all ur penis with mine since that is what u want to talk about, so the true penis only stay while all fake as never being by revealing the fake of ur heads being worse, that u would dream to get back to chicken state for any shape of head left but nothing would b there for ur hell, one head over nothing that want revenge thirst of ur blood excitement driven by god tellin u to invade nothing as urs, there another kind of penis nothing existence is waiting too and expecting u with rage
i dont have to mention in between satan penis that is givin u still the illusion of being a sample of him, but soon it is gonna be finish since no movies payroll to save, he is gonna **** u for real making urs wishing to **** ur ass so u could support having fun with it the rest of ur life
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:45 pm
@imans,
...u're the most charming wacco of a2k monkey ! would an entire cart of bananas make you go play elsewhere ? No ? How about a nice camel ? Cool
imans
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:13 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
i told u get on ur bananas cart monkey face and enjoy the ride by being the last survival of fancies on fake with ur jesus porsh, i was just guessing wat exciting ride u gonna get, wat matter is the journey not the end as u always say, so enjoy shitty
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:17 pm
@imans,
Imans... you're not doing yourself any favors by trying and failing miserably to nonsensically rant at Fil Albuquerque. Quit while your a dozen light years behind. English and/or typing isn't your forte. Your posts are making me dizzy.... Embarrassed
JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 01:55 pm
@RW Standing,
I like Nietzsche's insistence that a person has both a right to his life and to his death.
BTW, ever since I put Imans on "ignore" my vertigo has stopped.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 02:35 pm
@JLNobody,
Good for Nietzsche...and good for you for quoting it here.

I intend to insist on my right to death with as much dignity as possible when the time comes. Right now I am having way too much fun to think about it with much intensity, but it seems to me that cyanide capsules should be more readily available in a reasonable, logical society such as we claim ours is.
 

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