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Buffalo
 
Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2012 07:52 pm
If it takes 100 oz weight to pull a “spring device” down 5 inches into “cocked” position, what is the maximum height the device can propel an object that weighs 1 oz straight up, from the cocked position?
Since the 1 oz object is exactly 1/100 of the weight needed to pull down the device 5 inches into the cocked position, would it ever be possible to propel the 1 oz object straight up 500+ inches from the cocked position (100x the distance needed to cock the device)?
The same question applies to the same device with a 20 oz object. Since the object weighs exactly 1/5 of the weight required to cock the device, would it ever be possible to propel that object straight up 25 inches from the cocked position (5x the distance required to cock the device)?
These specific weights are just examples for description. The main idea is the relationship of the force needed to cock the spring device down a given distance vs the height that device will propel an object that is a specific percentage of weight of the original force.
Is it an equal trade off?
100x weight pulls down spring device 5 inches….
At 5 inches down, the device launches 1x weight 500 inches straight up?
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Reply Sat 28 Jul, 2012 11:12 pm
@Buffalo,
I'm claiming "not enough information." We not only need to know how much energy is stored in the spring, we need to know how fast it is released.

If I knew that, I would still be waiting for someone else to answer.
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Reply Sun 29 Jul, 2012 04:04 pm
@Buffalo,
First you have to remember that energy is always conserved an second you have to remember that fpf is a confusinf system as units of force (pounds) and mass (pounds) aren't the same--they're dictated by F=ma

Now lets get to basics

Springs are governed in genefal by F=kx where k is a spring constant and x is displacement, and the potential energy (PE) in a spring is given by.

PE=1/2kx^2

When I rearrange to get the PE from what you gave (k=F/x), you find

PE=1/2Fx putting in values an converting to a fps energy term (ft lbf)

PE=1/2*(100/16 lbf)*(5/12 ft)~1.30 ft-lbf

Now when you put a 1 oz projectile on this loaded gun you're limited to this amount of energy.

Not lets convert this PE to KE

KE=1/2mv^2

now m=1/16 lbm (lbm stands for pounds mass)

1.30 ft-lbf=1/2 (1/16 lbm)*v^2

but an lbm is mot the same as a lbf so a simple conversion isn't possible

Remember that F=ma and under an a of 1g (32 ft/s^2) 1lbm =1lbf

and 1 lbf= 32 lbm ft/s^2

so
1.30 ft 32 lbm ft/s^2=1/2*(1/16) lbm *v^2

cancelling everything then

1.30 (32^2) ft^2/s^2=v^2

taking thre square root to find the projectile velocity we find

v=32*sqrt (1.3) ft/s ~36.5 ft/s

Now we know that the 1 oz projectile is throun upward under 1 g of acceleration at 36.5 ft/s

now lets use Newtons laws of motion to find the maximum height of the projectile

at some time the projectile has zero upward velocity--what's this time

this is easy

v1=v0-at set v1=0, v0=36.5 ft/s , and a=32 ft/s^2
so
t=36.5 ft/s/(32 ft/s^2)~1.14 s

now we know as 1.14 s the projectile reaches its maximum elevation

what's this elevation

s=1/2at^2=1/2*(32 ft/s^2)*(1.14 s)^2~20.8 ft ~ 250 inches

so with a mass ratio of 100, your displacement ratio is 50.

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